# Is Israel an apartheid regime

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**Created:** [November 4, 2023, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-israel-an-apartheid-regime/992614 "2023-11-04T23:03:18Z")\
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> [@Babale](#):
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> Instead you amplify Hamas by calling Israel an apartheid regime.

…I’m not amplifying Hamas. I’m amplifying the meticulous investigations conducted by different human rights agencies that looked at the evidence. And the evidence is _overwhelming_. This has _nothing_ to do with Hamas and I absolutely reject your characterization.

> [@Babale](#):
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> That was the logic in 2014 that prevented a ground invasion. 1,400 dead Israeli civilians later, a ground invasion is necessary.

I’m sorry, did Israel do nothing to the Palestinians in either Gaza or the West Bank between 2014 and October 7th? It went from “no ground invasion” to suddenly 1400 dead Israeli civilians later? Because if you think thats the case, then I would suggest to you that you need to read both the Amnesty International Report and the HRW report as well.

And again, I must absolutely stress this, the death of those 1400 dead Israeli civilians was a disgusting, despicable crime against humanity. I’m not downplaying it or excusing it at all. I was physically ill when I read the stories. _Inexcusable_ evil.

But I’m not going to stop saying we should “stop killing children now” because of something that apparently didn’t happen in 2014.

> [@Discussion thread for the Hamas Attacks Israel thread, October 2023](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/discussion-thread-for-the-hamas-attacks-israel-thread-october-2023/991317/1221):
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> And we believe hamas?

Do we believe the IDF?

I don’t have much faith in either, to be honest. I take statements from _both_ sides at face value, but with a great big huge grain of salt.

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