# Is it a male-dominated world? Why or why not?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [January 27, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563 "2018-01-27T02:30:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/41 "2018-01-27T14:24:28Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> Well, there you have it. Women have the power to make men less assholey. How could men have dominion when nothing more than the mere presence of the fairer sex makes them alter their behavior.
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> …

Otherwise nice upstanding men, having a few beers then offering women free mustache rides isn’t normal behavior?

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**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/42 "2018-01-27T14:45:34Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> If it was a men’s world truly, there would be more men than women  
> .

What?

No, that’s the opposite. Men tend to like women-heavy environments (like, for example, societies in the aftermath of major wars, where the supply of women outstrips the supply of men).

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/43 "2018-01-27T14:59:17Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> Sure😏

> [@Luciano700](#):
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> Lol, that edit button sure likes to go away

> [@Luciano700](#):
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> No lol.

> [@Luciano700](#):
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> Definitely lol.

What’s [del]lol[/del] funny?

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/44 "2018-01-27T15:03:42Z")

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The U.S. has a male dominated culture. That does not mean that you or I are among the elite, it just means that male (white, Christian male to be more specific) is taken to be the default and so most everyone else is defined by how they differ from that standard.

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**Author:** ![SantaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@SantaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SantaMan)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/45 "2018-01-27T15:07:28Z")

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I’m surprised no one has invoked “The hand that rocks the cradle is the hand that rules the world” meme

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/46 "2018-01-27T15:13:11Z")

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> [@SantaMan](#):
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> I’m surprised no one has invoked “The hand that rocks the cradle is the hand that rules the world” meme

The one where Q fingers a lady‽

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/47 "2018-01-27T15:57:46Z")

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Behind every great man there’s a woman. Doing twice the work for half the pay with none of the glory.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/48 "2018-01-27T16:18:43Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Otherwise nice upstanding men, having a few beers then offering women free mustache rides isn’t normal behavior?

I’ve always found it better to charge a nominal fee, to weed out the weirdos.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/49 "2018-01-27T16:28:17Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> The U.S. has a male dominated culture. That does not mean that you or I are among the elite, it just means that male (white, Christian male to be more specific) is taken to be the default and so most everyone else is defined by how they differ from that standard.

This even reflects on things such as chairs, car seats or safety equipment. Even safety belts are usually placed in a way that easily makes them cut into a woman’s neck, which I’m reasonably sure most of you will agree is not terribly safe; it is also quite uncomfortable. Two of the differences between cars marketed for women and “for the general market” is the positioning of the belts and the ranges of motion of the seats. “Ergonomic” seats fitting women nicely are even rarer; apparently very few makers of office furniture think that there may be women there and that we’re not shaped quite the same as the Standard Office Worker.

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**Author:** ![ZonexandScout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zonexandscout/32/544_2.png) [@ZonexandScout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZonexandScout)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/50 "2018-01-27T16:30:46Z")

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I’m surprised that nobody (unless I missed it) mentioned that women have earned more bachelor degrees in the USA (and in the UK, as well as several other countries) for at least the past ten years. In fact, there’s an article in the NYT today discussing this and the fact that there are more women in the entering class at Oxford this year than there are men.

This doesn’t resolve issues with hiring or pay for women, but it’s certainly one area in which males are no longer “dominant.” Advanced degrees are a different story.

If you choose your criteria carefully, you can certainly make an argument for exactly the opposite of your statement/question.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/51 "2018-01-27T16:54:23Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> Well then, I would like to be proved wrong 😁

This is Great Debates. The default expectation is that one offers credible evidence that ones assertions are right. If one is unable/unwilling to do that, one should stay out of Great Debates.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/52 "2018-01-27T17:31:48Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> Behind every great man there’s a woman. Doing twice the work for half the pay with none of the glory.

Behind every married man is a great woman picking his pocket.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/53 "2018-01-27T17:40:20Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> Fair enough I understand these aren’t really effective examples…

If you have effective examples, why didn’t you lead with them?  
If the only examples you have are (in your own words) ineffective, then you have just defeated your own premise.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/54 "2018-01-27T17:57:40Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> If you have effective examples, why didn’t you lead with them?  
> If the only examples you have are (in your own words) ineffective, then you have just defeated your own premise.

It seems you didn’t read my other posts.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/55 "2018-01-27T18:04:48Z")

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Also yeah, Asian and white women in particular have outgraduated men for the last 12 years I heard.  
Black men on the other hand are the biggest demographic to drop out school.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/56 "2018-01-27T18:04:59Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> It seems you didn’t read my other posts.

It got worse. What would you say is your best example in this thread?

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/57 "2018-01-27T18:06:26Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> It got worse. What would you say is your best example in this thread?

Huh???

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/58 "2018-01-27T19:43:44Z")

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If it were a woman-dominated world, men would have to wear high heels and women would be expected to wear flats.

I rest my case.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/59 "2018-01-27T19:55:10Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> Huh???

Your inference, that **Czarcasm** has not read your later posts, appears to be unfounded. You imply that you have presented substance. He responds that you have yet to do so, trending more away from it than toward it.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/60 "2018-01-27T22:07:21Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> Definitely lol.

> [@Luciano700](#):
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> Huh???

_lol_ and _huh_, appear to be your best contributions thus far to a hypothesis you put forward but have yet to support.

> [@Luciano700](#):
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> Also yeah, Asian and white women in particular have outgraduated men for the last 12 years I heard.  
> Black men on the other hand are the biggest demographic to drop out school.

“Also yeah”…? What does this have to do with ‘male world domination’? Can you connect your thoughts into something cohesive, or is this just a stream of semi-consciousness?

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