# Is it a male-dominated world? Why or why not?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [January 27, 2018, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563 "2018-01-27T02:30:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/61 "2018-01-27T22:51:24Z")

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Men control much of the power in the world, but women still control 100% of the vagina.  
It’s not as male-dominated as it once was, but there are still more make CEOs and executives and politicians and other people who wield actual power.  
FWIW, I hang out with my son all the time. I also work from home a lot, so I get to drop him off and pick him up from school from time to time. A lot of other fathers don’t get to do that though, because they have to go to their office.

> [@AI\_Proofreader](#):
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> There are. Biology has accounted for the spectacularly stupid ways in which men get themselves killed, by having 107 male births for every 100 female births:  
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That’s less than a 1% difference. Biologically, you don’t need an equal ratio of men to women.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/62 "2018-01-27T22:57:32Z")

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If it was male-dominated world, why does the male have to wear the condom?

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**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/63 "2018-01-27T23:03:13Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> That’s less than a 1% difference. Biologically, you don’t need an equal ratio of men to women.

No 107 men to 100 women is a 7% difference if you mean how many more men than women. Or it’s a 3.4% difference if you mean 51.7% boys are born vs 48.3%. Or it’s a 1.7% difference if you mean 1.7% more than half (though that seems an awkward use of difference).

I don’t see how to get it to less than 1%.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/64 "2018-01-27T23:47:20Z")

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The thread is getting unserious and I think some of you are missing the point.  
You can’t just claim right off the bat men dominate the whole world to the point where women appear in nothing or don’t get the attention.

And refer to the advertising example, here is an example of the principle regarding men in advertising [Misandry in Commercials (Entry #21) - YouTube](https://youtu.be/dFZat3oIbhU)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/65 "2018-01-28T00:07:08Z")

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_getting_ unserious ?

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/66 "2018-01-28T00:27:34Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> The thread is getting unserious and I think some of you are missing the point.  
> You can’t just claim right off the bat men dominate the whole world to the point where women appear in nothing or don’t get the attention.
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> And refer to the advertising example, here is an example of the principle regarding men in advertising [https://youtu.be/dFZat3oIbhU](https://youtu.be/dFZat3oIbhU)

Domination is not a zero sum game. No one is claiming that women have no power or influence, just that men historically and currently have more power and influence.

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/67 "2018-01-28T00:32:16Z")

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> [@DrFidelius](#):
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> Domination is not a zero sum game. No one is claiming that women have no power or influence, just that men historically and currently have more power and influence.

Governmentally and economically yes, always have.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/68 "2018-01-28T00:35:07Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> You can’t just claim right off the bat men dominate the whole world to the point where women appear in nothing or don’t get the attention.

Sure we can. What’s to stop us? What stopped you from posting your, um, non-serious OP?

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/69 "2018-01-28T00:46:07Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> Governmentally and economically yes, always have.

And socially. And religiously. And artistically. And sexually.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/70 "2018-01-28T00:53:49Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> [snip] … You can’t just claim right off the bat men dominate the whole world to the point where women appear in nothing or don’t get the attention … [snap]

Things have changed in the past fifty years … remember that Jackie Kennedy looked straight into the camera during the 1960 Presidential campaign and stated her only job was to serve her husband and that she was nothing without him … JFK carried the woman’s vote that year …

How many great Hollywood movies have only one woman in them … _Casablanca, The Quiet Man_, etc etc etc …

Only 11 woman served in the US Senate during this country’s first 200 years … that’s half the number currently sitting … and 22 out of 100 is still a national disgrace IMEIO …

There’s places in this world right now where women are _never_ treated as adults … Until _very_ recently, women couldn’t vote, couldn’t drive and couldn’t be seen outside their homes without being accompanied by their husband/father/brother … or the police will cut their heads off right there in the street …

There’s a billion Roman Catholics in the world who honestly believe women are completely unqualified to be priests …

Even I’m old enough to remember when a man’s wife was considered his personal property … and if he wanted to beat her to death then that was his own affair … and none of ours …

Is this the man’s fault? … I don’t know … ask all the women who voted for The Donald …

[What Dead Heads think](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9fF8yptn8E) {YouTube - 8’44"} …

There were more than just one female character in _The Lord of the Rings_ … but at no time in the movies or books did two women have a conversation … think about it … women never talked to each other in Middle Earth …

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**Author:** ![Doug\_K](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5ac83/32.png) [@Doug\_K](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_K)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/71 "2018-01-28T01:04:30Z")

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> [@Nava](#):
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> Even safety belts are usually placed in a way that easily makes them cut into a woman’s neck, which I’m reasonably sure most of you will agree is not terribly safe; it is also quite uncomfortable.

This makes no sense. A safety belt that would easily cut into a woman’s neck would also easily cut into a man’s neck. There’s no difference in the way the seatbelt goes over my wife’s shoulder than it does mine. None.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/72 "2018-01-28T01:07:32Z")

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> [@Doug\_K](#):
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> This makes no sense. A safety belt that would easily cut into a woman’s neck would also easily cut into a man’s neck. There’s no difference in the way the seatbelt goes over my wife’s shoulder than it does mine. None.

Same with your breasts?

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/73 "2018-01-28T01:18:49Z")

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If this was a male-dominated world, we wouldn’t have [tiddy bears](http://www.tiddybearcomfortstrap.com/)!

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/74 "2018-01-28T01:19:13Z")

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> [@Doug\_K](#):
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> This makes no sense. A safety belt that would easily cut into a woman’s neck would also easily cut into a man’s neck. There’s no difference in the way the seatbelt goes over my wife’s shoulder than it does mine. None.

Average height of adults in the US:

Men: 5 ft 9 1⁄2 in. Women: 5 ft 4 in.

That 5 inch difference seems like it would be just about right to put the belt right across the neck. But there are short men, too. In a male-dominated world I’d think they would be given a little more consideration.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/75 "2018-01-28T01:21:52Z")

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In a male dominated world … advertisers would use nothing but young beautiful sexy half-naked women in their copy …

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**Author:** ![Luciano700](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Luciano700](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Luciano700)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/76 "2018-01-28T02:19:33Z")

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> [@watchwolf49](#):
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> Things have changed in the past fifty years … remember that Jackie Kennedy looked straight into the camera during the 1960 Presidential campaign and stated her only job was to serve her husband and that she was nothing without him … JFK carried the woman’s vote that year …
> 
> How many great Hollywood movies have only one woman in them … _Casablanca, The Quiet Man_, etc etc etc …
> 
> Only 11 woman served in the US Senate during this country’s first 200 years … that’s half the number currently sitting … and 22 out of 100 is still a national disgrace IMEIO …
> 
> There’s places in this world right now where women are _never_ treated as adults … Until _very_ recently, women couldn’t vote, couldn’t drive and couldn’t be seen outside their homes without being accompanied by their husband/father/brother … or the police will cut their heads off right there in the street …
> 
> There’s a billion Roman Catholics in the world who honestly believe women are completely unqualified to be priests …
> 
> Even I’m old enough to remember when a man’s wife was considered his personal property … and if he wanted to beat her to death then that was his own affair … and none of ours …
> 
> Is this the man’s fault? … I don’t know … ask all the women who voted for The Donald …
> 
> [What Dead Heads think](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9fF8yptn8E) {YouTube - 8’44"} …
> 
> There were more than just one female character in _The Lord of the Rings_ … but at no time in the movies or books did two women have a conversation … think about it … women never talked to each other in Middle Earth …

But compare that to the opression men of color faced through history.  
for black men they make up the majority of people in prison, and it aint even close, not to mention the history of segregation, lynching, jim crow, and the racial wage gap…sexism is not nearly as big an issue in america as racism

Black men still are struggling to have good graduation rates as well and still have a very low life expectancy.  
Women don’t forcefully want to be in politics anyways  
Say to the Sharia Law advocates  
Who the heck wants to see gender-specific films anwyays?  
Yet most abuse shelters only allow women in in the West.  
Heck, The vote was consolidated to the household back then, usual heads of the household were believed to be them men, or so I’m told

and yet still women’s suffrage began in 1919, black men by and large could not vote, at least in the south…that is where the voting rights ac of the 60s came through.  
I mentioned in the OP that it was at its strongest around those times so not sure why you brought up Lord of the Rings example

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/77 "2018-01-28T06:31:43Z")

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I recognize the words but I’ll be damned if I can string them into a coherent thought process.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 7:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/78 "2018-01-28T07:23:51Z")

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> [@Luciano700](#):
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> And refer to the advertising example, here is an example of the principle regarding men in advertising [https://youtu.be/dFZat3oIbhU](https://youtu.be/dFZat3oIbhU)

Men are often portrayed stupidly in television commercials. I always figured it was indicative that women make the majority of household purchasing decisions.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/79 "2018-01-28T07:36:36Z")

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The obligatory [James Brown](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juTeHsKPWhY).

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2018, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-a-male-dominated-world-why-or-why-not/807563/80 "2018-01-28T07:42:47Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I recognize the words but I’ll be damned if I can string them into a coherent thought process.

+1

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