What do you mean by “pretending race doesn’t exist and isn’t a factor is not going to make this problem go away”? Exactly which problem are you referring to?

What do you mean by “pretending race doesn’t exist and isn’t a factor is not going to make this problem go away”? Exactly which problem are you referring to?
The Republicans have devolved into two core principles: bigotry and hypocrisy (IOWARDI). So it indeed is all about race. No matter how many people talk about education, class, or location, when you drill down to the true core differences they are always race-based. It’s no different from claiming the Civil War was about state’s rights rather than slavery.
I’m just spitballing here, you understand, and @Wesley_Clark is free to correct me, but I think they just possibly, maybe, might be referring to the problem of "why has U.S. culture become so polarized? "
Since that was the problem statement in the OP and all…
It’s not, but Pittsburgh arguably is. It has more in common with Rust Belt cities like Cleveland and Detroit than it does with the Mid-Atlantic.
Nope. Assign Pittsburgh to the mideast. You have to cross the Mississippi to be in the midwest.
You have to cross the Mississippi to be in the midwest.
You can cross the Mississippi to get to Pittsburgh. It just depends on which side you start from.
Nah, Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois are midwest, as well as Wisconsin and Michigan, all east of the Mississippi River.
Pittsburg isn’t in Ohio, but it’s closer to Ohio than it is to any of the northwestern states, being significantly closer to Columbus than it is the Philadelphia or Washington DC. Even Cincinnati is closer to Pittsburg than Philadelphia, and Indianapolis isn’t much further.
It’s not a part of the Midwest Census region, but it shares more culturally with the midwest than with the east or northeast.
You can cross the Mississippi to get to Pittsburgh. It just depends on which side you start from
Very true. Thank you.
Reworded: Pittsburgh is the Mideast. You have to be west of the Mississippi to be in the Midwest. Don’t get me going on the South.
You have to be west of the Mississippi to be in the Midwest.
This is news to me. The Midwest has always included Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
I know it doesn’t seem very “west” to a lot of people, but the US has done a lot of growing since its inception.
Pittsburgh is the Mideast.
Where are you getting these geographic definitions? The Mideast isn’t a well defined census region, like the Midwest is, but any references I find to it do not include Pennsylvania.
closer to Ohio than it is to any of the northwestern states
Way too late to edit…
I of course mean northeastern states.
Culture is not brightlined and definitely does not conform to state boundaries. New York City culture is not the culture of western New York. Rochester is noted as a friendly, polite, slower-paced city that is often compared to the midwest. Ohio starts in Rochester or something like that. Jamestown, NY - much closer to Rochester than Rochester is to Albany - is 50 miles from Erie, PA, which is 100 miles from Cleveland and they are all midwestern.
I have no trouble believing that Pittsburgh is midwestern in a way that Philadelphia is not.
I have no trouble believing that Pittsburgh is midwestern in a way that Philadelphia is not.
But another poster just informed us that the midwest is west of the Mississippi.
Yes, they did. And posters have posted that they were wrong for saying so.
They are wrong for saying so.
Not just my opinion. Google “Where is the midwest”.
The Midwestern United States (or Midwest) refers to the north-central states of the United States of America, specifically Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Ohio, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Wisconsin .
It is much, much easier to draw lines along state boundaries than grapple with the subtle changes and individual exceptions outside and in. Most groupings follow the four Census statistical regions of Northeast, Midwest, South and West. West Virginia is stuck into the South when doing so. I spent time in southeastern Ohio and my impression was that there was no cultural border between that and neighboring WV.
It’s true that the four regions have nine divisions and the Midwest is divided into the East North Central and the West North Central, using the Mississippi as a dividing line. That may be what’s being thought of. Nevertheless, the Northcentral or Midwest as a whole sits astride the Mississippi.
OK, let’s get some rules straight here:
OK, let’s get some rules straight here:
- everything north and east of New York is “New England.”
The North Pole is in New England?
Concurring and extending: Back in the day, the Northwest territory included all or some of what we now call Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan and Minnesota (that’s why Northwestern University is in Illinois (Evanston is east of parts of Kentucky, Tennessee and Alabama)).
Santa speaks with a Maine accent (“ah, yup”)
And why Case Western Reserve is on Ohio.
It wishes. But we won’t have it.