# Is it curtains for Gordon Brown? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 3, 2009, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-curtains-for-gordon-brown/498647 "2009-06-03T23:03:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2009, 10:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-curtains-for-gordon-brown/498647/21 "2009-06-07T10:15:45Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > The local election results were bad for Labour. For non UK dopers:- the Labour Party finished in [third place](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/local-elections/5455051/Local-elections-Labour-suffers-humiliating-defeat.html) in the local elections > [@](#): > > With 22 of 34 council results declared yesterday, a projection compiled by the BBC put the Tories on course for 38 per cent, the Lib Dems on 28 per cent and Labour on 23 per cent It’s entirely possible they may end up in fourth position in the Euro Elections. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-curtains-for-gordon-brown/498647/22 "2009-06-08T03:04:52Z")
> [@tagos](#): > > I’d rather get a chance to see what the new leader does for 11 months and much as I dislike this government I’m not voting for Cameron just because he looks better on U-Tube than Brown. X-Tube is where it really counts. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-curtains-for-gordon-brown/498647/23 "2009-06-08T08:01:23Z")
Well, I was wrong. Labour came third in the Euro elections, beaten by the Tories and UKIP. And the scumbags of the BNP got 2 MEPs. This is much more of a disaster for Labour than the local elections. Those who vote UKIP in the Euro elections are much more likely to vote Tory in the national elections, and this is a poll of the whole country, not just a bit of it. And Daniel Hannan is improving markedly as a speaker. [Watch](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/8088541.stm) him channel Dr Seuss. ---
**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-curtains-for-gordon-brown/498647/24 "2009-06-08T08:14:47Z")
One paper (Sunday Telegraph) reported that the four Government Ministers who resigned recently did so as a pact to try to get Brown overthrown. With the economy in the tank, disastrous local and European elections and the resignations, it is hard to see what Brown can do to restore confidence. He’s probably hoping that a combination of inertia and no likely challengers (the likeliest, Alan Johnston, has just accepted a senior Cabinet post) will keep him in office. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-curtains-for-gordon-brown/498647/25 "2009-06-08T12:31:48Z")
> [@glee](#): > > One paper (Sunday Telegraph) reported that the four Government Ministers who resigned recently did so as a pact to try to get Brown overthrown. Given the paper’s bias, I’d like to see that second-sourced before attaching any significant credence to it. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-curtains-for-gordon-brown/498647/26 "2009-06-08T14:42:46Z")
> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#): > > X-Tube is where it really counts. Brain bleach, brain bleach. STAT! ---
**Author:** ![telebox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7ea924/32.png) [@telebox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/telebox)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2009, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-curtains-for-gordon-brown/498647/27 "2009-06-08T22:21:40Z")
Latest news as of 23:00 UK, He has survived a meeting with the Parliamentary Labour Party, with the absence of any figure emerging to trigger a leadership contest. Accusations abound that behind the scenes deals, arm twisting, and veiled threats have safeguarded him for now. ---
**Author:** ![DeptfordX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DeptfordX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeptfordX)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2009, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-curtains-for-gordon-brown/498647/28 "2009-06-09T00:59:44Z")
Once you’ve struck the iceberg. it’s hard to find volunteers for Captain. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-curtains-for-gordon-brown/498647.md?page=1)