# Is it EVER a good idea to suggest someone strip for extra cash? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [October 2, 2012, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474 "2012-10-02T14:53:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/61 "2012-10-03T12:50:32Z")
This thread might need a pole. _d&r_ ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/62 "2012-10-03T13:42:46Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Tell your friend to get a pharmaceutical rep job. It’s not any more classy but she gets to keep her clothes on and eat nice dinners on the company dime. My doctor told me that the pharma companies have cut way down on in-person visits by representatives. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/63 "2012-10-03T13:50:45Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Let’s say your girlfriend wasn’t making as much money as she could be, would you want a guy friend to suggest she slap on a g-string and start grinding on the laps of strangers? Is slapping considered the most effective way of putting on a g-string? It sounds uncomfortable. > [@Acsenray](#): > > My doctor told me that the pharma companies have cut way down on in-person visits by representatives. I’ve heard that from a bunch of doctors too, but people I know who are actually pharm reps say they are just focusing on different fields now (ie., the pain management market is tapped out, so they are going to oncologists and the like). ---
**Author:** ![Foxy40](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Foxy40](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foxy40)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/64 "2012-10-03T15:15:59Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Not if you wanna keep her as a friend. This. Exactly this. When I was young and got laid off, this very same thing was suggested by a so called “friend”. I never spoke to him again. Wow, 20 years later and it still pisses me off. ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/65 "2012-10-03T16:14:10Z")
When you say “Hey, I know you’ve been having a hard time financially. I worry about you. I know it’s a tough job market right now, so please don’t take this the wrong way, but have you ever considered stripping?” She is going to hear “I’m thinking about you naked right now” Stripping may be a controlled environment, but it’s not a 9-5 job. Strippers are around a lot of illegal activity, including drugs and prostitution. They face occupational hazards that most office workers do not- things like stalkers, being propositioned for illegal activities, routine sexual harassment, lots of drunk people, etc. As for job satisfaction, it’s something some people enjoy, but most people do not like being seen naked by strangers. I think this discussion is really about how men are fascinated with this idea that female sexuality buys us all kinds of special privileges. How often have we heard on this board that women do not need to work hard to find suitable sex partners (“women can just go out to a bar and pick up anyone!”) or that every attractive woman has a magic moneymaker? What I see in the OP is this same fascination with the idea…as if he is thinking “Yeah, if I were a hot woman I would totally do that! Free money!” What the OP (and most men) don’t realize that is that it’s not always so straightforward and rarely as lucrative as it seems. Women, it turns out, can easily sleep with men, but not necessarily men they are attracted to. Using your sexuality to get ahead financially rarely works out particularly well- there are so many ways it can backfire. Sure, maybe you can get promoted by flirting with the boss, but that comes at the price of not being taken seriously in the workplace and maybe missing the next promotion. And all sexual attention comes with drawbacks- it can be obnoxious, tiresome, intimidating and even dangerous. It’s not some free gift. It’s a complicated thing most women have an ambiguous relationship with. ---
**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/66 "2012-10-03T18:28:27Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Tsk, tsk. Judging me as being judgmental?. Oh dear that’s delicious. No, I don’t know you personally as in off the board. I have, however, read several of your threads you’ve posted about your personal life over the years. Threads that you have elected to share for everyone to read. But no, I don’t know you. Still, when you post you get opinions. That’s how it works especially here in the IMHO forum. Speculating why a thread gets started is hardly a new idea. Your sneak brag about already having had sex with the woman in question seemed a little odd to me. Maybe you mentioned it to fend off accusations of lechery, but as you didn’t say you’d be asking her to strip FOR you I’m not sure anyone would have thought to go there. I’ll ignore the usual condescending tone of your reply, but let’s see: of the threads I’ve started in the past year or so (anything older would be irrelevant), I’ve mentioned my difficult upbringing, my cat peeing in the bathroom, jury duty, bed bugs, and my girlfriend’s new job. The rest of my threads are mostly either in CS or the Game Room. How, pray tell, did you manage to glean from any of those personal threads that my intention was to sneakbrag about bedding an attractive woman? Can you point out _one single post_ where I have engaged in that sort of bragging? > [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > You didn’t, but why does it matter if she has one or not? Does her having a bf change how you’d talk to her? Actually, yes, it does. But she doesn’t have a boyfriend, so why does it matter? Oh, here’s why: > [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > I’m trying to get you to see that suggesting something like that to someone would be considered improper because answering that question is why you posted the thread, right? I know you’ve posted about your girlfriend before so I was simply framing it so that you could see that you’d probably find it a little offputting for someone to suggest to YOUR girlfriend that she could earn more money by gyrating on the laps of strangers. Asking you how you’d like it if someone suggested it to you isn’t really the same thing as you’re a male. So, you see, the fact that she has no boyfriend is really not at all important. You’re taking something that wasn’t a factor in the situation and making it a factor. It’s like saying, “ **SWB** , do you think I should take flying lessons?” and you responding, “Would you ask me that question if you were blind?” I’m not blind, so no, that’s not a factor. > [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > I find that if you’re questioning whether you should address someone about something you might consider how you’d like it if the same was said to someone in YOUR life. Not a new concept. So, imagine a guy who has had sex with your GF in the past suggesting that she could make more $ by stripping. Probably not a great feeling. That’s why I vote that it isn’t EVER a good idea, like you asked when you started the thread. That’s all. No. You accused me of sneakbragging completely unprovoked, then you changed the question by adding an imaginary boyfriend to the equation. Had you said, “No, it’s never a good idea, and here’s why,” then we’d be getting along swimmingly. Can you, for once in your life, admit that you were too quick to judge and made a mistake? ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/67 "2012-10-03T19:20:37Z")
A few years back, there was a Brown University coed who paid her way through college by dancing at a local “gentlemen’s club”. She wrote a book about her experiences. As I remember, you have to be very careful in this line of work-these establishments are often owned by mobsters, and there is a lot of untaxed money involved. I suppose you could look at it as getting paid to do aerobics-but the clientele would gross me out. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/68 "2012-10-03T19:31:30Z")
> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#): > > Can you, for once in your life, admit that you were too quick to judge and made a mistake? OMG the melodrama of it all! For once in your life, SWB, for once in your life! Seriously, you’re hilarious. It isn’t a matter of if SHE has a boyfriend at all. If you’d bother to read what I said rather than just railing about the same nonsense you’d see that it wasn’t me who said or implied that she had a boyfriend _at all_ it was YOU. You mean to tell me in your over 3 decades of life you’ve never heard anyone say “How would you like it if someone talked to your \_\_\_\_\_\_\_ (mother, sister, wife) that way?” That is what I was doing in my first post in this thread, post #53. In post #58 you ask me where you indicated she had one. Huh? I never said anything about her having a boyfriend. I explained it in more detail to you in my next post #60. Explained how I was framing it to you as in “You probably wouldn’t like it if someone talked this way to your gf” and once again never said anything about her having a boyfriend. You have completely missed the point yet again even after I’ve explained it in more detail. So once again. I never said she had a boyfriend. That is irrelevant 100% no matter how many times you want to bring it up. You made this thread to ask if it is ever a good idea to suggest this to a friend. Your own brain has told you several times it’s probably not a good idea. Many people here advise it is not a good idea. I advise the same and used someone in YOUR life as an example as in “You probably wouldn’t like it if your loved one was approached about this thing” and all you seem to want to focus on is accusing me of saying she had a boyfriend? What? Seriously, you are not reading the words on the page. YOU (y-o-u) are the one who keeps bringing up her boyfriend status. Not me. You don’t get it and I’m not explaining that portion of it again. Either you get it now or you don’t. As far as the sneak bragging thing, calm down. You say you weren’t sneak bragging in a thread about this hot girl you know who could totally make a lot of money stripping and oh you’ve already banged her, well okay then. My bad. I’m not sure where I would have ever gotten that idea. Silly me. ---
**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/69 "2012-10-03T22:34:32Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > and oh you’ve already banged her Don’t be so crass. He didn’t say he banged her, he said he’s seen all there is to see. He could be talking about her laproscopy vids for all you know. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2012, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/70 "2012-10-03T22:37:53Z")
I chuckled. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/71 "2012-10-04T02:21:06Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Some hot chicks (or guys) don’t know they’re hot. I agree. About 1 per 10 million. Which is about less than one per state of the union. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/72 "2012-10-04T02:28:01Z")
> [@Becky2844](#): > > Even horny drunk guys don’t want to see somebody with two left feet and no sense of rhythm akwardly strut across the stage. No, but they would pay big bucks to see some hot naked babestrut across the stage. Awkward, rhythm, left/right feet does not enter into the equation. You haven’t been to enough naked bars, kid. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/73 "2012-10-04T12:40:13Z")
> [@Becky2844](#): > > Even horny drunk guys don’t want to see somebody with two left feet and no sense of rhythm akwardly strut across the stage. There exists a spectrum of “strip clubs”. You have an opinion based on experiences with one end of the spectrum. But there are places where the dancers give BJs in cars between their sets and nobody cares about the dancers’ dancing abilities. Two left feet? Seriously? As long as she can get those feet spread as far as possible, there wouldn’t be a problem in the kinda places I’m talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Becky2844](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Becky2844](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky2844)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/74 "2012-10-04T13:12:16Z")
OK. I don’t think I’d want to go to the places you guys are talking about. 😛 But speaking of which, we must have hit more “gentlemens’ clubs” type places. So there’s a hierarchy? ---
**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/75 "2012-10-04T13:51:30Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Some hot chicks (or guys) don’t know they’re hot. Looking hot and being hot are two different things. OP I’ve had these suggestions made to me from time to time, my response to the lads is - ok you go first. Disclaimer: not intended as a stealth brag to insinuate that I’m attractive. ---
**Author:** ![Becky2844](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Becky2844](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky2844)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/76 "2012-10-04T13:56:01Z")
:smack: You _said_ there’s a spectrum. Out of the three or four times we’ve gone to a strip club there was one that was “seedier” and not as much fun. Maybe the guys revisited it later on their own… ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/77 "2012-10-04T14:02:35Z")
I’m a guy. I’ve been in places where I felt very uncomfortable. Varies by state as well. In PA, the Liquor Control Board is very particular about what happens in liquor serving establishments. In PA if you are in a place that serves liquor, it will be a “gentleman’s club” type atmosphere. Then there are BYOB clubs that are largely not regulated, at least by the liquor control people. All bets are off when it comes to some of those places. ---
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/78 "2012-10-04T20:01:21Z")
**Agent Foxtrot** , **Sleeps With Butterflies** , please stop sniping. Thank you, Ellen ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/79 "2012-10-04T20:19:53Z")
Awwwwwwwww, I thought it was cute. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2012, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474/80 "2012-10-04T20:28:51Z")
In my experience, unsolicited advice is rarely appreciated or accepted. If she’s not yet at the point where she’s asking you for advice on how to solve her problems, she’s not ready for you to inject solutions. A person must at least get to the point where they asking for solutions. Maybe it’s best to let things play out. Being homeless can be temporary. Maybe it will give her the motivation to take a good, hard look at her situation and start thinking up solutions of her own. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-ever-a-good-idea-to-suggest-someone-strip-for-extra-cash/636474.md?page=3)