# Is it illegal to build a large working cannon?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [May 18, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817 "2009-05-18T03:51:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/1 "2009-05-18T03:51:10Z")

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If you had mad design and machining skillz would it be legal to construct a large bore working cannon or Gatling gun style artillery piece for your own amusement, or do laws limits even weapons you build yourself?

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/2 "2009-05-18T03:54:18Z")

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You can buy full-size muzzle-loading cannon barrels through the mail. By ‘full size’ they mean exterior dimensions. I know that a replica Civil War field cannon barrel has a bore of about 3-1/3".

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/3 "2009-05-18T04:09:11Z")

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[How to Build a 12 pound Mountain Howitzer Cannon](http://www.buckstix.com/HowitzerBarrel.htm)

[Barrel Price List at Steen Cannons](http://www.steencannons.com/Barrel%20Price%20List.htm)

I’m not seeing anything about licenses, or going to jail.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/4 "2009-05-18T04:14:07Z")

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With a muzzle-loader I think you’re safe.

I am posting this without a cite, but I think there is a .55 or .60 caliber limit if you want to build something that fires fixed ammunition. (i.e., case, projectile, powder and primer all together.)

What about a Naval gun, where a projectile is loaded from the breech and the powder charge is inserted behind it? I’ve got no answer.

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**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/5 "2009-05-18T06:12:51Z")

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> [@Squink](#):
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> [How to Build a 12 pound Mountain Howitzer Cannon](http://www.buckstix.com/HowitzerBarrel.htm)
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> [Barrel Price List at Steen Cannons](http://www.steencannons.com/Barrel%20Price%20List.htm)
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> I’m not seeing anything about licenses, or going to jail.

What?! No trailer hitches? What kind of…

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**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/6 "2009-05-18T06:21:35Z")

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They did it on _MythBusters_, and that show always says something about how you should try this stuff at home. So go for it.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/7 "2009-05-18T06:48:44Z")

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Second Amendment, no?

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**Author:** ![Miscue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8491ac/32.png) [@Miscue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miscue)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/8 "2009-05-18T11:00:27Z")

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**Is it illegal to build a large cannon?**

Maybe, maybe not?

**Is it illegal to build a large _working_ cannon?**

How do you legally find out it _works_? 🙂

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**Author:** ![PatriotGrrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9dc877/32.png) [@PatriotGrrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotGrrrl)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/9 "2009-05-18T11:41:50Z")

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> [@Miscue](#):
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> How do you legally find out it _works_? 🙂

As long as you are allowed to posses it, and are at a location where you are allowed to fire regular firearms, you should be allowed to fire it.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/10 "2009-05-18T11:56:37Z")

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Muzzleloading cannons are unrestricted, as is the rule for muzzleloading weapons generally.

Breechloaders over .50 caliber are classed as [destructive devices](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destructive_device).

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/11 "2009-05-18T14:13:00Z")

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Thanks for looking that up. I didn’t know .50 caliber was the limit, and thought it was slightly larger.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/12 "2009-05-18T14:18:33Z")

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A neighbor of mine once had a small brass cannon with which he would fire salutes on Independence Day. All the neighborhood kids loved it. Don’t think he ever got ticketed for either possession of a banned weapon or disturbing the peace.

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**Author:** ![Cagey\_Drifter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@Cagey\_Drifter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cagey_Drifter)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/13 "2009-05-18T14:37:05Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> A neighbor of mine once had a small brass cannon with which he would fire salutes on Independence Day. All the neighborhood kids loved it. Don’t think he ever got ticketed for either possession of a banned weapon or disturbing the peace.

How come the guy with the biggest/most weapons is always the most patriotic?

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/14 "2009-05-18T15:05:25Z")

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Gatling guns are also not restricted as they aren’t technically a full auto firing weapon.

Full auto being defined by the BATF as multiple shots fired with a single trigger pull.

[Gatling conversion for Ruger 22 rifles.](http://www.tacticalinc.com/ruger-1022-gatling-machined-aluminum-p-571.html) A crank and cam mechanism that operates the triggers.

I saw one online once with the conventional circular design that people associate with Gatling guns. Don’t have time to find it again now.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/15 "2009-05-18T15:30:56Z")

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> [@Cagey\_Drifter](#):
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> How come the guy with the biggest/most weapons is always the most patriotic?

Because patriotism is defined as how much into war and military stuff you are.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/16 "2009-05-18T15:44:08Z")

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Note that that’s mechanical gatling guns (driven by a hand crank or such) not electric ones, which would be considered full auto.

A friend of mine used to have one of those 10/22 kits. It was fun although it was hard to get both guns sighted in to the same spot.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/17 "2009-05-18T16:11:03Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> If you had mad design and machining skillz would it be legal to construct a large bore working cannon or Gatling gun style artillery piece for your own amusement, or do laws limits even weapons you build yourself?

I hate to keep bringing this up whenever a question such as this is posted, but it all depends on what country you live in and, if you live in the United States, probably what state you live.

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**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-illegal-to-build-a-large-working-cannon/496817/18 "2009-05-18T16:47:00Z")

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I don’t have access to most of these from here, but the OP may find these google results interesting:

[http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=Bowling+ball+cannon&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8](http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=Bowling+ball+cannon&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8)
