# Is It Just Me, Or Do You Think McCain Just Doesn't Look Very Healthy?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [July 13, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356 "2008-07-13T20:14:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/21 "2008-07-14T12:41:05Z")

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I gotta admit- I like the 'stache & we do need to get back to Pressies with facial hair.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/22 "2008-07-14T13:02:27Z")

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McCain has also had a few surgeries for cancer (I think skin and salivary gland). I believe the misshapen apperance of his right jaw is due to that. I disagree with the man’s politics, but jeez, he’s been through a lot.

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**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/23 "2008-07-14T17:07:49Z")

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[QUOTE=RealityChuck]  
“Don’t you think he looks tired?” 😉  
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Heh. I thought the same thing when I opened this thread.

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**Author:** ![Mooch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mooch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mooch)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/24 "2008-07-14T18:09:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Argent Towers]  
I think a [mustache](https://oncourse.iu.edu/access/content/user/akentisa/Filemanager_Public_Files/cain%20copy.jpg) would help his appearance.  
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Holy crap! He looks like a modern Teddy Roosevelt or Wilford Brimley’s skinny brother or something.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/25 "2008-07-14T18:16:52Z")

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If Lincoln could be persuaded to grow a beard by a letter from some little girl, I think a campaign to try to convince McCain to grow a Roosevelt mustache could actually be successful. We seriously NEED mustached presidents again.

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**Author:** ![Mooch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mooch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mooch)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/26 "2008-07-14T18:28:47Z")

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Obama needs some kick ass facial hair, too. I’m thinking fu man chu.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/27 "2008-07-14T18:31:08Z")

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Perhaps something like [this?](https://oncourse.iu.edu/access/content/user/akentisa/Filemanager_Public_Files/obbab%20copy.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/28 "2008-07-14T18:31:09Z")

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The last presidents not to be clean-shaven were Taft and Teddy Roosevelt, each with a mustache. However, several 19th-century presidents had beards of considerable size. I wonder if that fashion will ever return.

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/29 "2008-07-14T18:31:25Z")

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His arms look too short for his body. Does anyone know if that was because of the torture?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/30 "2008-07-14T18:58:17Z")

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[QUOTE=Giles]  
I wonder if that fashion will ever return.  
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Let’s hope not. State dinners would be a disaster. Some guy with an earphone and a cord running down his neck would have to daub at the Presidential Facial Hair after each bite. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Mooch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mooch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mooch)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/31 "2008-07-14T19:07:59Z")

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[QUOTE=Argent Towers]  
Perhaps something like [this?](https://oncourse.iu.edu/access/content/user/akentisa/Filemanager_Public_Files/obbab%20copy.jpg)  
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Very cool. Looks like he’s ready to drink somebody’s milkshake.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/32 "2008-07-14T20:22:11Z")

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[QUOTE=Mooch]  
Very cool. Looks like he’s ready to drink somebody’s milkshake.  
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Or start a talk show and dodge flying chairs.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/33 "2008-07-14T20:50:00Z")

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McCain mustache good, Obama mustache bad.

McCain was and remains a far more handsome man than Obama, especially when taking age into account. When McCain was a young man, he could easily have been a model or a movie star as far as looks go, and continues to be a very good looking man (the mustache makes a good thing better). On the other hand, Obama is far more compelling in his presentation, despite the taxi-cab ears.

I think the mustache does make him seem heartier, somehow. Maybe because it reminds us of of Teddy Rooseveldt and Wilfird Brimley (Grape Nuts!). But his schedule must be exhausting for him. I don’t see how candidates like Obama keep going and even appear to be energized by it.

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**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/34 "2008-07-14T21:11:34Z")

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Yeah, McCain was _gorgeous_ when he was younger.

Now, of course… well, it’s not really fair to compare, is it? As much as people like to make fun of Obama’s ears (the man included), he is very attractive and clean-cut.

It may be no fault of McCain’s that he looks aged and frail, but that doesn’t change the fact that he does. I think I’m going to wind up feeling sorry for the guy when they debate.

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**Author:** ![MoodIndigo1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e8c25b/32.png) [@MoodIndigo1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MoodIndigo1)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/35 "2008-07-14T21:29:33Z")

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He does look aged, and the fact that he probably has to avoid the sun or wear sunscreen because of his bouts with skin cancer don’t help. If he had a bit of tan, he’d look healthier. Not be healthier, just look.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2008, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/36 "2008-07-14T22:11:11Z")

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[QUOTE=RealityChuck]  
“Don’t you think he looks tired?” 😉  
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Thank you for the Doctor Who reference.

(Risking, of course, the possibility that you didn’t mean it that way.)

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/37 "2008-07-15T01:31:05Z")

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Well, that picture of Obama only shows one kind of mustache, a somewhat outlandish one to be honest - I was kind of going for comedic effect. If you want, I can Photoshop more images of Obama with different mustaches. A smaller one would probably look better.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/38 "2008-07-15T01:45:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Argent Towers]  
A smaller one would probably look better.  
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Try a toothbrush. 🙂

It would be curly though, would it not?

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**Author:** ![Mooch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mooch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mooch)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/39 "2008-07-15T02:12:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Argent Towers]  
Well, that picture of Obama only shows one kind of mustache, a somewhat outlandish one to be honest - I was kind of going for comedic effect. If you want, I can Photoshop more images of Obama with different mustaches. A smaller one would probably look better.  
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Or a Burt Reynolds style one?

“ha hAAAAAAA”  
/Bandit

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**Author:** ![sjc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e5b9ba/32.png) [@sjc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sjc)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2008, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-do-you-think-mccain-just-doesnt-look-very-healthy/456356/40 "2008-07-15T02:24:14Z")

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[QUOTE=Argent Towers]  
McCain looked way better, [when he was younger,](http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_01/mccainoldDM0802_468x843.jpg) than Obama ever will. The guy may be young and in good shape but he’s far from an Adonis - I always thought he looked like a dork.  
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I actually think he looks mildly goofy in that picture. I can see how some might find him attractive in that picture, but I don’t particularly. Obama, on the other hand, I find attractive. Some of it is looks, some of it is demeanor.

I like the mustache on McCain though, it helps.

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