# Is it just me or is President Biden really good at the job? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 1, 2023, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859 "2023-06-01T06:12:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/201 "2023-06-06T22:11:56Z")
> [@ThelmaLou](#): > > Ending the Viet Nam war tanked Lyndon Johnson’s career. I’m not sure that this is accurate. It was the _escalation_ of the war under LBJ in 1965-67 that played a big role in his sinking popularity. His announcement of halting the bombing in North Vietnam, in March of 1968, was in the same speech in which he announced that he wouldn’t be running for re-election. And, the war continued well after LBJ left office, running through the early 1970s, and the Nixon administration. ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2023, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/202 "2023-06-06T22:34:51Z")
I was referring to Johnson’s decision not to run again. And Joe is still standing and **will** run again. ---
**Author:** ![Steven\_Maven](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steven_maven/32/3272_2.png) [@Steven\_Maven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steven_Maven)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2023, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/203 "2023-06-09T15:16:36Z")
> [@engineer\_comp\_geek](#): > > Personally I think he is the 2nd worst president that we have had during my lifetime. The only one I think was worse was Trump. Like they say on _Jeopardy!,_ “Be more specific.” You posted several follow-ups, I didn’t find any examples of things he did or failed to do. Or did I miss something? Please elaborate. ---
**Author:** ![Woglinde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a698b9/32.png) [@Woglinde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Woglinde)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/204 "2023-09-05T23:21:56Z")
No. I mean, no, it’s probably not just you who thinks he is, and no, he ain’t. Noticed all this shit going on in far away Europe, like Ukraine? Wouldn’t have happened (in fact, _didn’t_ happen!) while Trump was president! No love for Joe from me. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/205 "2023-09-05T23:40:47Z")
You do know, do you not, that what’s going on in Ukraine has been going on for the past nine years? I.e., encompassing the entirety of Trump’s time in office? ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/206 "2023-09-06T00:31:45Z")
No I think he’s right. If Trump was in office I think it is likely that there wouldn’t currently be a war in Ukraine. The advanced weapon systems we sent to Ukraine would have been sold to Russia for oil and by this time last year Ukraine would be back to being a Russian puppet. Peace in our time! (if you ignore a bout or two of ethnic cleansing). Next stop Finland. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/207 "2023-09-06T00:49:15Z")
Agreed. Trump would have done exactly zero to assist UKR. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/208 "2023-09-06T01:51:46Z")
> [@Woglinde](#): > > Noticed all this shit going on in far away Europe, like Ukraine? Wouldn’t have happened (in fact, _didn’t_ happen!) while Trump was president! If what you’re saying is that Trump wouldn’t have supported Ukraine, given both his love affair with Putin and Zelensky’s refusal to play ball with Trump’s corruption, you’re absolutely right. US support for Ukraine wouldn’t have happened under Trump. If you’re suggesting that Mr. “Never met a dictator I didn’t like” would’ve stood up to Putin–well, that’s just silly talk. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/209 "2023-09-06T01:55:43Z")
> [@Woglinde](#): > > Noticed all this shit going on in far away Europe, like Ukraine? Wouldn’t have happened (in fact, _didn’t_ happen!) while Trump was president! donald’s first impeachment came about because he delayed congressionally authorized weapons to Ukraine over an attempt to create scandal surrounding his upcoming opponent, Joe Biden. And why was Ukraine in need of such weapons? Answer that and you’ll understand why your claim is completely incorrect. (Here’s a hint from 2019) > [@](#): > > But the delays come amid questions over Trump’s approach to Russia, after a weekend in which **the president repeatedly seemed to downplay Moscow’s military intervention in Ukraine** and pushed for Russia to be reinstated into the Group of Seven, an annual gathering of the world’s largest advanced economies. (My emphasis) > **[Trump holds up Ukraine military aid meant to confront Russia](https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/28/trump-ukraine-military-aid-russia-1689531)** > > United States military aid to Ukraine has long been seen as a litmus test for how strongly the American government is pushing back against Moscow. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/210 "2023-09-06T01:55:57Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > If you’re suggesting that Mr. “Never met a dictator I didn’t like” would’ve stood up to Putin–well, that’s just silly talk. I’m pretty sure I’d go with this option, but if said poster can convincingly posit otherwise, I’d have to eat my words elsewhere. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/211 "2023-09-06T04:35:33Z")
Most of the Trump supporters I hear from have changed their tune to “He might not be a great guy but he kept his promises”. So I looked at some of his promises. Improve infrastructure? Yeah, Biden did that. Allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices? Biden did that too. Funny how it is Biden who is keeping Trump’s promises. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/212 "2023-09-06T06:09:17Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > The advanced weapon systems we sent to Ukraine would have been sold to Russia for oil We’re talking about Trump. He would delivered advanced weapon systems to Russia in exchange for a promise of oil in the future. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/213 "2023-09-06T07:10:02Z")
We’re talking about Trump. He would have delivered advanced weapon systems to Russia in exchange for having his ego stroked. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2023, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/214 "2023-09-06T20:04:27Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > We’re talking about Trump. He would delivered advanced weapon systems to Russia in exchange for a promise of oil in the future. He would’ve delivered advanced weapon systems to Russia in exchange for a promise to fast track Trump Tower Moscow. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2023, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/215 "2023-09-07T09:04:25Z")
Not Biden per se but Harris: > **[Indonesian Officials Harass White House Pool Reporter After Harris-Widodo...](https://www.voanews.com/a/indonesian-officials-harass-white-house-pool-reporter-after-harris-widodo-meeting/7257121.html)** > > The US vice president’s staff defended the reporter In short: a journalist covering the ASEAN summit in Indonesia as the pool reporter (i.e. covering the event for several media outlets) called out questions to Harris and Indonesian president Joko Widodo and was promptly physically blocked and banned from all press events (despite the questions being fairly standard). Harris and the US delegation refused to go into the summit room until the journalist was reinstated and allowed to attend. Nice to see a bit of backbone in defending press freedom, even when it complicates the meetings being held. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/216 "2024-02-21T06:40:15Z")
There is a new ranking of Presidents out. Biden is ranked 14th (out of 45). Trump is ranked 45th (worst). Obama is ranked 7th: [http://www.brandonrottinghaus.com/uploads/1/0/8/7/108798321/presidential\_greatness\_white\_paper\_2024.pdf](http://www.brandonrottinghaus.com/uploads/1/0/8/7/108798321/presidential_greatness_white_paper_2024.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/217 "2024-02-21T11:42:52Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Harris and the US delegation refused to go into the summit room until the journalist was reinstated and allowed to attend. Just saw this 6 months later. Kudos to her. Certainly something that wouldn’t have even occurred to Trump. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/218 "2024-02-21T19:26:11Z")
I think Biden is a good President. Not the most accomplished President (largely due to the MAGA Party shooting themselves in the foot while looking for pets from Trump). Could he have been (and should he be) more forceful in getting out word of his achievements and blasting the other side over their slowness and sabotage efforts? Sure, though I know it would be an uphill climb, and likely wouldn’t ever reach some people. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/219 "2024-02-21T21:45:43Z")
IMO what you meant was: > due to the MAGA Party shooting ~~themselves in the foot~~ the country in the head while looking for pets from Trump). ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2024, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859/220 "2024-02-21T21:52:52Z")
Moderating: > [@LSLGuy](#): > > IMO what you meant was: Do not alter text in a quote box of another poster’s words. This is a hard rule on SDMB. You can post the original words and then reflect your own interpretation of what they meant, but we simply don’t permit alterations within a quote box. Please don’t do this again. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-president-biden-really-good-at-the-job/984859.md?page=12)