# Is it just me or is the probability of Trump quitting the race getting higher?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 23, 2016, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716 "2016-08-23T03:55:45Z")\
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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/21 "2016-08-23T18:35:51Z")

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He’s gotta get as much of his money back as possible. He’s not going to quit.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2016, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/22 "2016-08-23T18:47:02Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> He’s gotta get as much of his money back as possible. He’s not going to quit.

[He’s working on it.](http://fortune.com/2016/08/23/trump-campaign-rent/)

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> Trump’s Campaign Spends 5 Times More on Rent (to his own company) Now That Donors Are Paying for It

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**Author:** ![diggerwam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/919ad9/32.png) [@diggerwam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/diggerwam)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/23 "2016-08-24T01:12:48Z")

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So when does Trump’s management team start leaving him. The political thinkers don’t want to be attached to a historic loser. I think a couple weeks prior to the election, his "brain"trust will start abandoning ship.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/24 "2016-08-24T01:43:38Z")

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He’s not going to quit; he’s going all in. His poll numbers will rise a little, Hillary’s will fall a little, and we will be back to having what we had going into the race, a Hillary victory, but not an especially dominant one. It could be close enough for Trump to milk this into a “I got screwed” post-election day soap opera.

If you look at what he’s doing now, it’s potentially the most serious attempt at a general campaign as I’ve seen him make post-convention. Are the odds in his favor? Oh hell no, but…Hillary has not been able to finish him off. And that matters. And if she’s not careful, it could really matter.

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**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/25 "2016-08-24T01:44:42Z")

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Don’t be silly. Trump knows he’s going to win, and [this guy agree](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-rosenblum/donald-trump-is-going-to_b_11637008.html)s.

OMG this made so much sense - can somebody point out where it’s wrong? please?

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/26 "2016-08-24T01:55:09Z")

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> [@Dob](#):
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> i’m voting for some kind of illness, injury, or some vague unknown reason (Democrats!) that have made him rethink his campaign and turn the reins over to Pence.

I don’t think he’ll quit, but if he does, it’ll be something like that, or “My multi-billion-dollar business empire needs my hands-on leadership once again,” or “I’ve run so hard and so long that my family is begging me to come home again; I love my country, but it’s time I reconnected with Wife #3 and the kids.”

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/27 "2016-08-24T03:10:25Z")

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When are the deadlines for filing to run for president? Hasn’t Trump passed or nearly passed those, meaning if he drops out the RNC can’t pick someone else to replace him?

I’m still thinking Trump will run, lose, and then claim the election was fraudulent and ride a wave of angry white resentment into some new multi million dollar venture.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/28 "2016-08-24T04:21:56Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> OMG this made so much sense - can somebody point out where it’s wrong? please?

Umm…every minority and women hating him, and a concerted GOTV effort on the part of the Dems as opposed to little or none for the Pubbies.

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**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/29 "2016-08-24T04:27:09Z")

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[I think they can.](http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/03/what-happens-if-a-candidate-say-donald-trump-drops-out-of-the-presidential-race.html)

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> … there is a procedure in place should Trump withdraw.
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> Rule 9 of the Republican National Committee rules governs “Filling Vacancies in Nominations,” and stipulates that should the party’s presidential or vice presidential candidate leave the ticket for whatever reason, the hole may be filled either by a reconvening of the national convention or by the party committee itself. The vice presidential nominee is not given any preferential consideration. …

The party has filed that a candidate is running as their nominee. I think that say, if Trump died, or had a stroke … or quit in a snit … even a short time before, [they could replace him](http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/hey_wait_a_minute/2000/10/dead_presidentelect.html).

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> … Imagine, God forbid, that on the eve of the election, a presidential candidate dies or becomes incapacitated. … Most states would allow the national parties to designate new candidates …

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/30 "2016-08-24T04:28:23Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> I’m still thinking Trump will run, lose, and then claim the election was fraudulent and ride a wave of angry white resentment into some new multi million dollar venture.

Why can’t the angry white guys secede?

That way, they could win every election in Bubbastan. We’d maintain diplomatic relations, let them send ‘Mailbox Shotgun Biathalon’ teams to the Olympics, and buy their exports of pork rinds and banjos.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/31 "2016-08-24T04:37:55Z")

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How do we know that Trump will stick it out? Because he earlier [declared otherwise](http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/01/politics/donald-trump-tanking-superman/)!

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> Donald Trump says he’s no “masochist” – so if one day he finds himself plummeting in the polls, he’d drop out …

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/32 "2016-08-24T05:53:36Z")

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> [@astro](#):
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> Trump over time has tended to abandon projects that were not performing and move on without a backward glance. His campaign is crashing and burning and every move he makes seemingly takes him deeper into the mire. IMO the chances of him quitting in the next 30 days are at least 50/50 if not more this point.

Nonsense. For the first time in his campaign, and probably in his life, he’s making a sincere effort to broaden his appeal.

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> His campaign thus has moved in recent days to soften his edges and to try to shift attention past the turmoil caused by the dramatic shake-up of his top management team last week.
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> In Charlotte, N.C., Trump announced “regret” that some of his heated comments — he didn’t say which — may have caused personal pain. In Fredericksburg, Va., he said the GOP must “do better” to reach out to African American voters.

> **[Donald Trump 'wrestling' with how — and whether — to deport 11 million people...](https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-immigration-20160821-snap-story.html)**
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> A day after Donald Trump met with a group of Latino supporters, top aides suggested Sunday that the GOP nominee may be reconsidering his signature campaign promise to round up and deport 11 million people who are in the country illegally.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/33 "2016-08-24T06:02:22Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Are the odds in his favor? Oh hell no, but…Hillary has not been able to finish him off. And that matters. And if she’s not careful, it could really matter.

Considering what Trump has already said and done in the past couple of months, I really don’t know what you think Clinton can possibly do to “finish him off”, especially in August.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/34 "2016-08-24T06:12:41Z")

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> [@Flyer](#):
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> Nonsense. For the first time in his campaign, and probably in his life, he’s making a sincere effort to broaden his appeal.  
> [Donald Trump 'wrestling' with how &mdash; and whether &mdash; to deport 11 million people from U.S.](http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-immigration-20160821-snap-story.html)

“Sincere”. When Trump talks about reaching out to black people - he only does it from the safety of a room full of white people.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/35 "2016-08-24T11:09:17Z")

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If the election is in November, how can one “finish off Trump” in August?

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/36 "2016-08-24T12:24:54Z")

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> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> OMG this made so much sense - can somebody point out where it’s wrong? please?

> [@Johnny\_Ace](#):
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> Umm…every minority and women hating him, and a concerted GOTV effort on the part of the Dems as opposed to little or none for the Pubbies.

Specifically to answer his supposed broad cultural appeal: it takes a lot less than a majority of the country for a given act/person to seem like “everyone likes it”. That’s why so many people feel like they are a rebel for rejecting something that the majority of us don’t even like. The best-selling albums of all time have sold around 50 million copies. That means that of the around 3 billion people who have been rich enough to afford them during that time span, fewer than 1 in 100 actually purchased them (since some purchased them multiple times: for instance, I have 3 copies of Dark Side of the Moon, and my brother has Thriller and Licensed to Ill which he previously had in childhood).

So if a couple million Americans are yuge fans of the Apprentice, that means that only 1 in 100 Americans like it. But it can still rake in a lot of cash, enough cash that it is worthwhile to advertise and thus keep it in the face of everyone, even those who don’t like it.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/37 "2016-08-24T12:43:15Z")

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In that way, it’s exactly the same argument as “Look at the size of his rallies!”. People advancing this either can’t or won’t acknowledge the difference between enthusiasm and popularity.

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Don’t be silly. Trump knows he’s going to win, and [this guy agree](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-rosenblum/donald-trump-is-going-to_b_11637008.html)s.

> [@JackieLikesVariety](#):
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> OMG this made so much sense - can somebody point out where it’s wrong? please?

Sure. It fails to take into account the fact that I have decreed that there shall never again be a Republican president.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/39 "2016-08-24T16:01:48Z")

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Also those other things.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-just-me-or-is-the-probability-of-trump-quitting-the-race-getting-higher/763716/40 "2016-08-24T16:05:19Z")

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> [@diggerwam](#):
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> So when does Trump’s management team start leaving him. The political thinkers don’t want to be attached to a historic loser. I think a couple weeks prior to the election, his "brain"trust will start abandoning ship.

You mean like Corey Lewandowski and Paul Manafort? They found convenient excuses to bail early, even while Trump was doubling down on defending assault against women and questionable dealings with Russians.

His current team are all right-wing media buffs in it for the ratings and the connections. There’s no brain trust over there.

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