# Is it me, or does the New Orleans gameplan seem to be "injure Favre"?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [January 25, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303 "2010-01-25T01:55:40Z")
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### Author:  [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/1 "2010-01-25T01:55:40Z")
Title says it all.
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### Author:  [@DSYoungEsq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSYoungEsq)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/2 "2010-01-25T01:59:36Z")
Join us in the playoff thread. š
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### Author:  [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Long_Time_First_Time)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/3 "2010-01-25T02:22:55Z")
No, I think Favreās being hit as much as any NFL quarterback. They all get put on the turf multiple times a game, let along the odd sack.
Itās just that heās 40, has only been able to play for the past few years because of all the āvitaminsā he injects into his ass, and is a frail as an aluminum pop can. So it looks worse and he takes longer to get up.
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### Author:  [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/4 "2010-01-25T02:38:45Z")
> [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](#):
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> Itās just that heās 40, has only been able to play for the past few years because of all the āvitaminsā he injects into his ass, and is a frail as an aluminum pop can. So it looks worse and he takes longer to get up.
Heās a pretty tuff aluminum can. Started 309 games in a row. Playing hurt tonight.
But, I agreeāitās just normal play, nothing specifically targeted at Farve.
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### Author:  [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/5 "2010-01-25T04:50:54Z")
True. Just the usual, but heās proving that he can still hang tough with the young 'uns.
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### Author:  [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/6 "2010-01-25T04:56:54Z")
Absolutely! The Cobra Ki donāt mind playing dirtyā¦
āSweep the leg, Johnny!ā
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### Author:  [@Shawn1767](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shawn1767)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/7 "2010-01-25T05:40:16Z")
Maybe they should just put flags on the QBs from now on.
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### Author:  [@Mesquite-oh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mesquite-oh)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/8 "2010-01-25T08:13:49Z")
Before the Dallas game, I heard some of the commentators say that part of Dallasā game plan was to get to get to Favre early and get him to the turf as much as possible because he canāt take hits like he used to and he would be less effective the rest of the game. This is opposed to concentrating on the run, concentrating on pass protection, or having an even mix. Defenses donāt go after every quarterback this way, they would have limited returns and could get burnt pretty easily. It seemed to me that New Orleans was going out of their way to rough up Favre (which is fine).
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### Author:  [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/9 "2010-01-25T09:19:58Z")
Injure Favre? No. Neutralize Favre? Absolutely. And it worked.
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### Author:  [@Quercus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quercus)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/10 "2010-01-25T13:53:24Z")
ā¦ and I was thinking
āGee, every other QB today has been hit just as hard and just as late after handing off or throwing, yet BrettFarvhe is the only one drawing multiple penalties. Too bad the NFL has hired NBA consultants to put BrhehttFhahrve rules in place.ā
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### Author:  [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/11 "2010-01-25T15:03:37Z")
That was my thought early in the game ā the Saintsā defense was roughing up Favre early and often.
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### Author:  [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/12 "2010-01-25T15:10:39Z")
> [@Quercus](#):
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> .. and I was thinking
> āGee, every other QB today has been hit just as hard and just as late after handing off or throwing, yet BrettFarvhe is the only one drawing multiple penalties. Too bad the NFL has hired NBA consultants to put BrhehttFhahrve rules in place.ā
Are you kidding? Brady and Manning both draw penalties like that all the time too. Earlier in the season some commentator was talking about āRoughing the Bradyā penalties.
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### Author:  [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/13 "2010-01-25T15:16:27Z")
Throughout NFL history, most head coaches have subscribed to the theory that āthe opposing quarterback must go down and he must go down hardā. Hurting the opposing quarterback, in a legal manner, is one of the major goals of a defense. And defenses that canāt achieve this donāt win championships.
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### Author:  [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/14 "2010-01-25T16:36:31Z")
The Saints also have been one of the most blitzingest teams in the league this season. Nothing surprising here.
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### Author:  [@Hampshire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hampshire)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/15 "2010-01-25T16:41:39Z")
Thatās two weeks in a row the Saints have been able to put the hurt on the QB.
Are they going to be able to put the K-O on Manning? How does Manning respond to going down hard multiple times?
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### Author:  [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)
#### Post date: [January 25, 2010, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/16 "2010-01-25T21:21:14Z")
> [@Hampshire](#):
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> ā¦How does Manning respond to going down hard multiple times?
He doesnāt perform well. Unfortunately for the Saints, it aināt easy to do. However, you can find a good example of how he performs by viewing yesterdayās 1st quarter and the 2005 divisional championship vs. the Steelers.
But you have to get to him consistently and get him moving out of the pocket to quickly. Much easier said than done.
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### Author:  [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2010, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/17 "2010-01-29T15:44:35Z")
And thanks to Gregg Williams, we know for sureā¦
āI sure hope so and I am not going to apologize for it either. You kill the head and the body will die. Thatās usually how it goes, you hit the quarterback and the whole team feels it. We are hoping to continue it this week. You know this guy (Peyton Manning) has a great clock in his head. The big thing is he throws the ball so early that we are going to have to do a good job of finding ways to get to him. **And when we do get to him, we are going to make sure to have a couple of remember me shots on him when we get there.** ā
[http://sportsradiointerviews.com/2010/01/27/gregg-williams-will-have-his-hands-full-with-peyton-manning/](http://sportsradiointerviews.com/2010/01/27/gregg-williams-will-have-his-hands-full-with-peyton-manning/)
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### Author:  [@Ivorybill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ivorybill)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/18 "2010-01-29T16:37:49Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> And thanks to Gregg Williams, we know for sureā¦
Awww cāmon **J J** , you know football better than that. Name me one defensive coordinator in the NFL, college, and high school ranks who would say that disrupting the QB isnāt part of their game plan? Williams, one of the most respected DCs in the NFL, is advocating āRemember Meā hits. Point to me where he said he wants late hits, illegal hits, purposefully-injure-the-other-player hits; give us a quote or a soundbite - - not quoted out of context - - to support your position.
If youāre going by the furor generated by the recent [interview](http://1045thezone.com/sectional.asp?id=36333)Williams did with 104.5 radio in Nashville, I recommend you listen to the interview and get Williams in context. [Mike Florio](http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/01/28/gregg-williams-suggests-the-saints-want-to-injure-manning/)did a hatchet job on Williams yesterday; [Tony Kornheiser](http://www.wwl.com/Williams-comments-on-Manning-rile-up-national-medi/6238554)did also on ESPN. To get to their positions, (and to boost their hits and to stir crap and to confuse the ignorant) Florio and Kornheiser both willfully and purposefully quoted Williams out of context.
Donāt be one of the sheeple. Listen for yourself.
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### Author:  [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/19 "2010-01-29T17:18:35Z")
> [@Ivorybill](#):
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> Awww cāmon **J J** , you know football better than that. Name me one defensive coordinator in the NFL, college, and high school ranks who would say that disrupting the QB isnāt part of their game plan? Williams, one of the most respected DCs in the NFL, is advocating āRemember Meā hits. Point to me where he said he wants late hits, illegal hits, purposefully-injure-the-other-player hits; give us a quote or a soundbite - - not quoted out of context - - to support your positionā¦Donāt be one of the sheeple. Listen for yourself.
Iām not sure what you believe Iām attempting to say here. Iām just following-up on my Post 13 in this thread, with something from āthe horseās mouthā. In no way do I believe that Williams was trying to imply that he would ask his players to do anything blatantly illegal or anything to permanently harm Manning. āRemember meā shots are those that test the boundaries, and every defensive coordinator understands this. And with all the rules protecting QBās today, I think Williamsā comments and beliefs would be unanimous with DCās.
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### Author:  [@Ivorybill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ivorybill)
#### Post date: [January 29, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or-does-the-new-orleans-gameplan-seem-to-be-injure-favre/526303/20 "2010-01-29T18:35:23Z")
> [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](#):
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> Iām not sure what you believe Iām attempting to say here. Iām just following-up on my Post 13 in this thread, with something from āthe horseās mouthā. In no way do I believe that Williams was trying to imply that he would ask his players to do anything blatantly illegal or anything to permanently harm Manning. āRemember meā shots are those that test the boundaries, and every defensive coordinator understands this. And with all the rules protecting QBās today, I think Williamsā comments and beliefs would be unanimous with DCās.
Sorry for the confusion. Lots of media have picked up on this and even local New Orleans stations are saying that Williams says he wants his guys to hurt Manning. I thought this was another case.