# Is it me or .... ?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 30, 2013, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552 "2013-08-30T00:51:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Penny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@Penny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penny)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/181 "2013-09-03T14:22:12Z")

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I love Forrest Gump.

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/182 "2013-09-03T14:29:23Z")

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> [@Penny](#):
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> I love Forrest Gump.

Oh yeah? Why don’t you _marry_ him, then?

[sub]channeling inner 8 year old[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/183 "2013-09-03T15:50:01Z")

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Some of us can range into the verbose. And yet a search check revealed that _even with this thread topic running_, the word sesquipedalian has not been used in over two weeks. I think that shows restraint.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/184 "2013-09-03T17:31:32Z")

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> [@Penny](#):
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> Sparky, the origin of that one is contested. There have been many versions of that idiom and attributed to the Bible, Socrates, Twain, Lincoln, etc…

_SIGH_

Try reading for comprehension, I wrote, “Twain may (or may not) have said”. I made no attributions to its origin nor did I claim he coined the adage.

Secondly, the origin is not really contested, the aphorism appears in the King James Version of the Bible as Proverbs 17:28.

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> Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding

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Of course, it’s a simple idea, so it’s quite possible that it has been conceived by others but there’s no great debate.

…and it’s a maxim, not an idiom, you fucking idiot.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/185 "2013-09-03T18:09:53Z")

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> [@Penny](#):
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> Truman, that’s exactly where I like to be - marginalized and mislabeled. I tend to rub those who [del] **don’t** [/del] appreciate intelligence the wrong way but I’m sure you’ll come around eventually. 🙂
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> Ivory, of course based on my opinion. My rows, my criteria. Intelligence, personality, ability, etc.

There, fixed that for you!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/186 "2013-09-03T19:42:17Z")

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Uh oh. That’s a paddling.

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/187 "2013-09-03T20:04:03Z")

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Shhhh! Maybe no one else will notice!

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**Author:** ![Penny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@Penny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penny)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/188 "2013-09-03T20:43:13Z")

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> [@Sparky812](#):
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> _SIGH_
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> Try reading for comprehension, I wrote, “Twain may (or may not) have said”. I made no attributions to its origin nor did I claim he coined the adage.
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> Secondly, the origin is not really contested, the aphorism appears in the King James Version of the Bible as Proverbs 17:28.
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> Of course, it’s a simple idea, so it’s quite possible that it has been conceived by others but there’s no great debate.
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> …and it’s a maxim, not an idiom, you fucking idiot.

You are correct. It is a maxim. My apologies.

The origin is debated. You said so in your post when you claimed Twain may or may not have said it.

And I can read just fine thank you.

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**Author:** ![Penny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@Penny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penny)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/189 "2013-09-03T20:44:17Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> Some of us can range into the verbose. And yet a search check revealed that _even with this thread topic running_, the word sesquipedalian has not been used in over two weeks. I think that shows restraint.

LOL!

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/190 "2013-09-03T21:08:54Z")

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So…did you have any interest in actually participating in this site, or did you just want to have a back-and-forth “I’m smarter than you!” “Nuh uh, I’m smarter than you!” argument?

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**Author:** ![saucywench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@saucywench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saucywench)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/191 "2013-09-03T22:13:54Z")

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From one of my favorite authors:

Good breeding consists in concealing how much we think of ourselves and how little we think of the other person.~Mark Twain

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**Author:** ![saucywench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/85e7bf/32.png) [@saucywench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saucywench)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/192 "2013-09-03T22:33:11Z")

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Penny~Were you raised by goats?

It would be a shame if my twelve years of intensive therapy at The Childhood Goat Trauma Foundation were to be undermined by my continued participation in this thread.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2013, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/193 "2013-09-03T22:45:52Z")

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> [@Penny](#):
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> And I can read just fine thank you.

Says the person who claimed she finds the posts here difficult to follow.

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**Author:** ![Penny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@Penny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penny)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/194 "2013-09-04T00:17:24Z")

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I said that Nemo? I don’t recall saying any such a thing.

Smeg, I have posted in other threads.

Saucy, I prefer “Of all the things I have lost, I miss my mind the most.” -Twain

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/195 "2013-09-04T01:09:28Z")

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> [@Penny](#):
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> Saucy, I prefer “Of all the things I have lost, I miss my mind the most.” -Twain

Twain never said that. It’s from the 1960s or later, Try Erma Bombeck or such. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![want2befree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3e96dc/32.png) [@want2befree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/want2befree)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/196 "2013-09-04T01:13:58Z")

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I Googled it and something came up that said Ozzy Osbourne said it.

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**Author:** ![Penny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@Penny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penny)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/197 "2013-09-04T01:18:56Z")

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Well sam, Twain is widely accredited as saying it. Erma Bombeck not so much.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/198 "2013-09-04T01:22:07Z")

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> [@Penny](#):
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> Well sam, Twain is widely accredited as saying it. Erma Bombeck not so much.

The first hundred or so hits you get on Google say the US government brought down the twin towers in 9/11. You believe that too?

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**Author:** ![seal\_cleaner](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e274bd/32.png) [@seal\_cleaner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/seal_cleaner)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/199 "2013-09-04T01:34:50Z")

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You’ll be wanting to peddle your tripe on reddit is what I think.

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**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/200 "2013-09-04T01:45:48Z")

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> [@Penny](#):
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> Well sam, Twain is widely credited as saying it. Erma Bombeck not so much.

Without trying to belabor the point, I do words/quotes/linguistics as an amatuer. No one used this quote much before 1960. I don’t just read what is quoted on the internet.

Twain would have been furious that such a banal remark would have been attributed to him.

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