# Is it me or .... ?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 30, 2013, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552 "2013-08-30T00:51:51Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tastes_of_chocolate/32/3232_2.png) [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tastes_of_Chocolate)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2013, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/241 "2013-09-04T22:54:07Z")

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> [@Penny](#):
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> Yes, I am new here. I registered with intention to post but alas, life arose. A dusty newb perhaps?

For someone who has had a couple of posting spats since January, I don’t think you get to play the “Be kind, I’m new here” card any more.

That said, interesting way to start your third set of visits. I hope you find plenty of other posters to play with, because you’ve entered the Twilight Zone of Ignored.

Or, in short grunts and gestures: Ugh, and draw my finger across my throat.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/242 "2013-09-05T01:32:06Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> So…did you have any interest in actually participating in this site, or did you just want to have a back-and-forth “I’m smarter than you!” “Nuh uh, I’m smarter than you!” argument?

That’s not an argument.

> [@Penny](#):
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> Actually, “were” is correct when supposing something that is contrary to fact. That’s not what I was doing so my sentence is correct.
> 
> I get the joke but I don’t want some poor sap developing bad writing habits because you guys want to make silly grammar barbs.

The “If” makes it a hypothetical and therefore subjunctive. " Subjunctive forms of verbs are typically used to express various states of unreality such as wish, emotion, possibility, judgment, opinion, necessity, or action that has not yet occurred."

And I miss Erma Bombeck. She decided to be a humorist while grousing over socks coming out of the dryer with no mate. Her son asked her where the other socks went. She looked at him and said: “They went to live with Jesus.” And he laughed.

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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/243 "2013-09-05T11:35:45Z")

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> [@Sparky812](#):
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> Gronk! \<gives thumbs up sign\>

Spa Fon!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/244 "2013-09-05T13:39:25Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> That’s not an argument.

Yes, it is.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/245 "2013-09-05T15:20:31Z")

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**Person Who Actually Knows** : Twain never said that.  
**Intelligent Person** : Oh. Thanks for providing the correct information.  
**Penny** : I still want to believe Twain said it, so I’ll keep my misbelief. Quit bothering my ignorance, you _faux_ intellectual!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/246 "2013-09-05T15:55:17Z")

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> [@Ludovic](#):
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> Yes, it is.

No it isn’t.

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**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/247 "2013-09-05T19:11:15Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> No it isn’t.

An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a proposition. It’s not just contradiction.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/248 "2013-09-05T19:49:26Z")

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Not quite. Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.

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**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/249 "2013-09-05T21:46:21Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Not quite. Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of any statement the other person makes.

No it isn’t.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/250 "2013-09-05T22:00:55Z")

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Look, if I argue with you I must take up a contrary position.

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**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/251 "2013-09-05T22:05:22Z")

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Thank you! Your five minutes is up.

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**Author:** ![Truman\_Burbank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@Truman\_Burbank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Truman_Burbank)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/252 "2013-09-05T22:46:19Z")

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That was never 5 minutes just now!

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2013, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/253 "2013-09-05T23:45:59Z")

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When I argue with myself, I don’t listen. That bitch never shuts up.

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**Author:** ![yawuntz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a5b964/32.png) [@yawuntz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yawuntz)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/254 "2013-09-06T01:34:32Z")

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I try to avoid arguing with myself because I’m very persuasive and awfully gullible.

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**Author:** ![Sparky812](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@Sparky812](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sparky812)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/255 "2013-09-06T11:06:58Z")

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I gave up arguing with myself because that goddamn sumnamabitch is always right!

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/256 "2013-09-06T13:00:24Z")

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I found this gem from our sleeper troll in a thread titled \*\*Your top three “bring the show back” (+ Explanation as to why) \*\*

> [@Your top three "bring the show back" (+ Explanation as to why)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/your-top-three-bring-the-show-back-explanation-as-to-why/654482/44):
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> **The A-Team** - the characters were fantastic and where else can you see such epic gun battles where no one gets shot
> 
> **Leave it to Beaver** - I think we could all use a little more Ward and June in our lives.
> 
> **Small Wonder** - I really think it was before it’s time.

srsly lol

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/257 "2013-09-06T16:15:23Z")

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> [@Darth\_Panda](#):
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> I found this gem from our sleeper troll in a thread titled \*\*Your top three “bring the show back” (+ Explanation as to why) \*\*
> 
> srsly lol

“Small Wonder” was definitely before its time. Its time is juuuuust before the Earth gets swallowed by the sun and not a minute sooner.

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**Author:** ![Penny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8baadc/32.png) [@Penny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penny)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/258 "2013-09-06T20:15:59Z")

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No, not “srsly” Darth.

DERP

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/259 "2013-09-06T20:21:33Z")

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**Penny** : it’s still you.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2013, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-me-or/667552/260 "2013-09-07T02:43:49Z")

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And still not banned! 🙂

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