# Is it selfish to want babies, or NOT to want babies...?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 7, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-selfish-to-want-babies-or-not-to-want-babies/937396 "2021-03-07T18:38:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![KennyT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ce7236/32.png) [@KennyT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KennyT)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-selfish-to-want-babies-or-not-to-want-babies/937396/1 "2021-03-07T18:38:31Z")

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why are you all into children and babies so much? is that a sign of human narcissism?

it’s a VERY GOOD QUESTION  
is it selfish to want children???  
or is it selfish NOT TO WANT CHILDREN???  
that’s the debate…  
if the latter: it’s selfish because you’re into self ‘fulfillment’ and all that BS (don’t wanna deal with diapers or put in effort for another person: your progeny in this case. selfish lady. Eat Pray and be a hedonistic worthless SLUT.)  
if the former: you want to spread your genetics (selfish) aka your ‘legacy’ (selfish)  
so they’re both selfish and selfless  
on the other hand: having babies means  
you’re giving LIFE to another, is that not selfless…???  
anyways: we can agree on this much, people who adopt are the best people  
thus we conclude that Madonna is an excellent person  
Angelina Jolie is an exclllent person  
Woody Allen is an excellent person  
he not only adopted an ugly 3rd world alien, he’s going to leave her millions  
she hit the jackpot!

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-selfish-to-want-babies-or-not-to-want-babies/937396/2 "2021-03-07T18:56:26Z")

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It is possible to want children for selfish reasons.  
It is possible to want children for unselfish reasons.  
It is possible to want not to have children for selfish reasons.  
It is possible to want not to have children for unselfish reasons.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-selfish-to-want-babies-or-not-to-want-babies/937396/3 "2021-03-07T19:05:42Z")

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-selfish-to-want-babies-or-not-to-want-babies/937396/4 "2021-03-07T19:06:19Z")

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Closed pending review by forum moderators.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2021, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-selfish-to-want-babies-or-not-to-want-babies/937396/5 "2021-03-07T19:34:12Z")

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**Modhat** : This thread will remain closed. There is several inappropriate things in the Op.

Describing someone as an “ugly 3rd world alien” and SLUT is not a Op that is going to go well and terminology we don’t want to see.