# Is it sex, and therefore not a sin, if there's no passion?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-sex-and-therefore-not-a-sin-if-theres-no-passion/104915>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 22, 2002, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-sex-and-therefore-not-a-sin-if-theres-no-passion/104915 "2002-04-22T02:54:53Z")\
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**Author:** ![Papamurf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/90db22/32.png) [@Papamurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Papamurf)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-sex-and-therefore-not-a-sin-if-theres-no-passion/104915/21 "2002-04-23T03:23:45Z")

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> **I guess I wasn’t quick enough with my little caveat.**

**celestina** , it’s all good. It’s a rant. A definitely a valid one.

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-sex-and-therefore-not-a-sin-if-theres-no-passion/104915/22 "2002-04-23T03:56:08Z")

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It is like saying one can have anal sex and still be a virgin. Bulls hit.

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**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\
**Post date:** [April 23, 2002, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-sex-and-therefore-not-a-sin-if-theres-no-passion/104915/23 "2002-04-23T14:54:10Z")

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Does masturbation count as violating a vow of chastity?

And for those of us who haven’t taken such a vow, masturbation still counts as “celibacy”, right? 😉

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