Is it sex, and therefore not a sin, if there's no passion?

celestina, it’s all good. It’s a rant. A definitely a valid one.

It is like saying one can have anal sex and still be a virgin. Bulls hit.

Does masturbation count as violating a vow of chastity?

And for those of us who haven’t taken such a vow, masturbation still counts as “celibacy”, right? :wink: