# Is it still a whoosh if it's true? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 23, 2004, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695 "2004-05-23T21:39:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2004, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/1 "2004-05-23T21:39:36Z")
Well, here I am checking the news at the end of a weekend away from the internet. Lo and behold, I find this: [Cameras banned on US bases in Iraq](http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,9643950%255E401,00.html) A couple weeks ago I was whooshed (sadly, the search function won’t turn up the correct thread for me) about cameras being banned from US military bases. Well, looks like that’s now happening. So…it was a whoosh then, but now it’s actually true. Is it stil a whoosh? -Joe, not at all embarassed for falling for it weeks ago ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2004, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/2 "2004-05-23T21:44:37Z")
Well, it really didn’t say anything about regular cameras. ---
**Author:** ![Reeder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Reeder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeder)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2004, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/3 "2004-05-23T22:22:49Z")
> [@ParentalAdvisory](#): > > Well, it really didn’t say anything about regular cameras. I’d say that digital cameras are pretty much regular cameras now. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/4 "2004-05-23T22:37:05Z")
:d ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/5 "2004-05-23T22:37:55Z")
Well, torture was supposed to be banned too, and we know how well that was enforced. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2004, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/6 "2004-05-23T22:39:19Z")
😃 -Sheesh! ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2004, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/7 "2004-05-23T23:48:31Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > 😃 > > -Sheesh! Good to know. 🙂 (I almost did a small d grin the other day) (And the main point of your post was in the title so anyone reading this post isolated would think Lobsang has lost it ← but for this note) :duBious: (test) ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2004, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/8 "2004-05-24T00:40:43Z")
Weird thing was, I put in the smilie by clicking on the “Big Grin” button, and _it_ generated a lower case d. ---
**Author:** ![Revedge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecae2f/32.png) [@Revedge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revedge)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2004, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/9 "2004-05-24T04:52:33Z")
I want to get this right. THe linked article basicaly says that Rumsfeld is concerned that camera phones brought these images of some of our troops breaking the law to our attention. He wants to ban the cameras so that we wont be able to learn of abuses in the future? Sounds like shooting the messenger to me. We need more cameras everywhere so that more people wont be tempted to step over the line again. (OF course that smacks of BIG BROTHER. damned if don’t, damned if you do.) I just find it worriesome that the defalt reaction by this administration is to limit the information that the citizens are entitled to. PS. I beleive that it is no longer a whoosh. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2004, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/10 "2004-05-24T09:48:15Z")
John 3:20 says it all. > [@](#): > > Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. ---
**Author:** ![Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/eada6e/32.png) [@Go\_You\_Big\_Red\_Fire\_Engine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Go_You_Big_Red_Fire_Engine)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2004, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/11 "2004-05-24T11:12:53Z")
Except the exhibitionist. But let’s remember [they were following orders.](http://sixtyminutes.ninemsn.com.au/sixtyminutes/stories/2004_05_16/story_1117.asp) ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2004, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/12 "2004-05-24T14:01:01Z")
> [@Revedge](#): > > I just find it worriesome that the defalt reaction by this administration is to limit the information that the citizens are entitled to. > > PS. I beleive that it is no longer a whoosh. I guess my big ol’ brain was seeing into the future. What you said was pretty much my point and the cause of my outrage. I can’t believe taht I was the only person to notice that the administrations primary anger was about the pictures, not the abuse. -Joe, prescient ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2004, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/13 "2004-05-24T17:28:45Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > I’d say that digital cameras are pretty much regular cameras now. Sure, in a mainstream way. I guess I meant to say analog? As in 35mm cameras. ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2004, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/14 "2004-05-24T17:47:49Z")
Just a thought: Maybe the reason film cameras haven’t been banned is you can’t “sneak” out the photos via the internet. Military censors can stop a roll of film or a package of prints a lot easier than they can a JPG file. Or maybe they banned film years ago, and are just now catching up to reality on the newer stuff. This is one of those squishy issues. There are perfectly good national security reasons for such a ban. There are also perfectly lousy political reasons for such a ban. ---
**Author:** ![Lockseer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a5b964/32.png) [@Lockseer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lockseer)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2004, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/15 "2004-05-24T18:16:16Z")
Okay…pardon my ignorance…been wondering this for a couple months now, and have been a reader of the boards for a couple years…what exactly does “whoosh” mean? Seen it mentioned in a few posts, but the one’s I read tend to be whoosh-free. Have tried to pick up on the definition from context, but don’t think I have it down… ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2004, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/16 "2004-05-24T19:11:53Z")
> [@BJMoose](#): > > Just a thought: > > Maybe the reason film cameras haven’t been banned is you can’t “sneak” out the photos via the internet. Military censors can stop a roll of film or a package of prints a lot easier than they can a JPG file. > > Or maybe they banned film years ago, and are just now catching up to reality on the newer stuff. > > This is one of those squishy issues. There are perfectly good national security reasons for such a ban. There are also perfectly lousy political reasons for such a ban. There were perfectly good national security reasons to ban them years ago - like when they were first becoming widely available. There were perfectly good reasons to ban camera phones when they first showed up. Banning them now is just idiotic. There’s only one possible reason for the timing, and everyone who doesn’t have their head planted firmly between Bushco’s cheeks knows it. **Lockseer** - “whoosh” is the noise something makes when it goes over your head - because, for example, you missed the joke…or on occasion, even a valid non-joke point. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/17 "2004-05-25T02:08:51Z")
**WHOOSH:** The sound the air makes when something goes over your head. ---
**Author:** ![Dijon\_Warlock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@Dijon\_Warlock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dijon_Warlock)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/18 "2004-05-25T02:13:19Z")
Like, for example, posting a definition of a word _7 hours_ after it’s already been posted. :o ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/19 "2004-05-25T02:27:44Z")
> [@Dijon Warlock](#): > > Like, for example, posting a definition of a word _7 hours_ after it’s already been posted. :o That’s more of a “Giant Sucking Sound” than a whoosh. ---
**Author:** ![Thaumaturge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@Thaumaturge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thaumaturge)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2004, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695/20 "2004-05-25T05:27:57Z")
I’ve always\* known that the military was run by a bunch of people with bone for brains, but even a total moron can see that the _ **CAMERAS** _ were not the problem here! Military intelligence indeed. \*well I only suspected until I actually signed up [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-a-whoosh-if-its-true/246695.md?page=2)