# Is it still OK to use the phrase Indian Summer?

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 8, 2020, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-ok-to-use-the-phrase-indian-summer/925065 "2020-11-08T17:41:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2020, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-still-ok-to-use-the-phrase-indian-summer/925065/21 "2020-11-09T10:31:54Z")

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There was a good discussion of both “indian summer” and “indian giver” in this thread from last year: [Which side is the term "Indian Giver" perjorative towards? - #36 by Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-side-is-the-term-indian-giver-perjorative-towards/841355/36)

But it doesn’t look like a consensus was reached on whether “indian summer” is indeed pejorative. I guess best avoided if in doubt. “Little summer” seems like a reasonable alternative.

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