# Is it time to let Star Trek die?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-time-to-let-star-trek-die/290620>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 18, 2005, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-time-to-let-star-trek-die/290620 "2005-02-18T00:00:15Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-time-to-let-star-trek-die/290620/41 "2005-02-19T03:44:55Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Today, that’s not true. A new “Star Trek” movie can’t automatically command a big crowd even on opening night.

How does it come to pass that?

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-time-to-let-star-trek-die/290620/42 "2005-02-19T04:05:36Z")

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Star Trek Nemesis world wide box office $67,312,826   
Die Another Day world wide box office $431,971,116

If James Bond can thrive for 20 movies there is no reason for Star Trek to be suffering like this.  
Nowi t is true that Trek doesn’t have any product tie-in like Bond and Vodka and a car deal and watch. But there is plenty of Star Trek stuff for sale.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-time-to-let-star-trek-die/290620/43 "2005-02-19T04:20:54Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> If James Bond can thrive for 20 movies there is no reason for Star Trek to be suffering like this.

There’s a big difference. With James Bond, there’s usually a couple of years between movies, so when the next one comes out, people are ready for more Bond. With Star Trek, we’ve been exposed to it continuously for about 20 years. I think that the general public is just sick of Trek. They need to give it a couple of years off. Rushing another series out to replace _Enterprise_ will just put another nail in the Trek franchise’s coffin.

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-time-to-let-star-trek-die/290620/44 "2005-02-19T04:24:46Z")

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> [@Diceman](#):
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> With Star Trek, we’ve been exposed to it continuously for about 20 years.

Someone’s gonna get nitpicked!

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-time-to-let-star-trek-die/290620/45 "2005-02-19T04:26:36Z")

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He said about.

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**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-time-to-let-star-trek-die/290620/46 "2005-02-19T08:29:25Z")

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Remember those SNL parodies of STARTREK? The ones showing Kirk, Spock, Uhuru shuffling around on walkers? Maybe they ought to make a few of these so we will know that the characters are ready for the STARFLEET old sailor’s home.  
Aren’t the Starfleet unfiroms getting to be a bit much? Kirk can hardly fit into his, and velvet must be pretty hot under those lights.  
Yes, the whole thing needs a rest…probably 10 years, and then they can start cranking out the same stuff again.  
Will weever see the Romulans portrayed sympathetically?

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-time-to-let-star-trek-die/290620/47 "2005-02-19T14:59:28Z")

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> [@CynicalGabe](#):
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> Someone’s gonna get nitpicked!

> [@Aesiron](#):
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> He said about.

Yes. That _about_ was put there deliberately. I didn’t want to go looking for when TNG first aired, which is what I would consider the start of the “continuous Trek” period.

Oh, all right. :: Googles quickly :: TNG premiered in 1987. (I thought it was a couple of years earlier than that.) That makes it 18 years. I rounded 🙂

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-time-to-let-star-trek-die/290620/48 "2005-02-19T17:22:30Z")

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> [@Cervaise](#):
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> Re Bond profitability, the producers have set up so many promotional deals to brand the spy gadgets with recognizable logos that the last few movies have been in the black before they even opened. Box office was just gravy.

It should be pointed out that they would not get these deals if they weren’t doing great box office world wide. Most what they get from product tie-in is free advertising. Films spend about 30 million on ads but Bond has all it’s partners pay for the ads.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2005, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-time-to-let-star-trek-die/290620/49 "2005-02-19T17:27:20Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> It should be pointed out that they would not get these deals if they weren’t doing great box office world wide. Most what they get from product tie-in is free advertising. Films spend about 30 million on ads but Bond has all it’s partners pay for the ads.

Yeah, but the point is that Bond films have been shiite for te past ten fifteen years.

Still, I can’t knock to hard on any film that features the beautiful and talented Michelle Yoeh. But the Bond franchise became a stumbling, moaning, lurching zombie years ago.

Stranger

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