# Is it Time to Tone Down the Wokeness, Especially about the Past?

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**Created:** [November 15, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-time-to-tone-down-the-wokeness-especially-about-the-past/1010287 "2024-11-15T15:14:11Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-time-to-tone-down-the-wokeness-especially-about-the-past/1010287/429 "2024-11-26T22:14:10Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> How do you know about this influence on Dem leaders – what are the examples of policy or rhetoric in the Democratic party?

Okay, I looked at some right-wing articles to see what they are claiming as woke policies from Biden:

An executive order in June 2021 calling for federal agencies to prioritize diversity, equity, and inclusion in recruits and when considering promotions.

> **[Executive Order on Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Accessibility in the...](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/06/25/executive-order-on-diversity-equity-inclusion-and-accessibility-in-the-federal-workforce/)**
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> By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including sections 1104, 3301, and 3302 of

Allocating Covid recovery funds on the basis of race and gender:

> **[Biden Is Prioritizing Billions Of COVID Funds By Race And Gender. Is That...](https://www.forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2021/05/11/biden-is-prioritizing-billions-of-covid-funds-by-race-and-gender-is-that-constitutional/)**
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> Joe Biden’s COVID relief plan, the “American Rescue Plan,” is a sprawling program that allocates $1.9 Trillion for a broad variety of purposes. It is unusual not only in its size and scope, but because it allocates portions of that money on the basis...

(Spoiler: it was not constitutional)

> **[Federal judge halts loan forgiveness program for farmers of color](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-judge-halts-loan-forgiveness-program-for-farmers-of-color/)**
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> Minority farmers say they have been unfairly denied government assistance for decades.

Opposing the lawsuit alleging that race-based affirmative action at Harvard and UNC was unconstitutional.

[https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-administration-asks-us-supreme-court-reject-harvard-affirmative-action-2021-12-09/](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-administration-asks-us-supreme-court-reject-harvard-affirmative-action-2021-12-09/)

Reinstating Obama-era rules that remove due process for anyone accused on sexual assault or harassment on university campuses:

> **[In new Title IX rules, Biden must not kick due process and free speech to the...](https://www.yahoo.com/news/title-ix-rules-biden-must-090002042.html)**
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> A group of Democratic senators has asked the Biden administration to eliminate the presumption of innocence in college sexual harassment cases.

There are a few more similar but I’m getting tired.

> [@Mijin](#):
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> Also: do you acknowledge that the Brexit campaign used the idea of “elitism” in their campaign, even though it was run by people who fit the mould of privileged elites better than anyone?

Sure. And many of them were planning to turn London into Singapore-on-Thames or something, which was not at all what most Brexit voters wanted. But despite the hypocrisy, I think there was something to the charge. As far as my research could tell, the EU really did economically benefit skilled/higher social class workers far more than low skilled/lower social class ones, while the later bore the brunt of the social and structural problems from mass migration as usual. We get to pay less when we need a plumber or building work, they get lower wages and fewer opportunities.

Illegal immigration in the US is similar: employers get cheap labour, poorer people see lower wages and more competition (probably the reason some Latino citizens are not big fans).

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> The crucial point remains: Democratic policies tend to have more public support, when the public hears them without partisan nonsense.

Pretty much everyone I have seen agrees that the border was a major reason Harris lost the election. Whatever they say in surveys, Americans are clearly unhappy with the current results. 🤷‍♀️

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> I’m assuming you think the “path to citizenship” approach is woke?

Not in itself. This is woke:

> [@DrDeth](#):
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> So, the dems should turn bigot and Xenophobe because the MAGAs are?

> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> No bill involving immigration is a “border security bill”, because immigration isn’t a _security_ problem in the first place. It’s a bigotry and labor exploitation problem.

Accusing people of xenophobia or bigotry for wanting to be able to decide who moves to their country and in what numbers is very woke.

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