# Is it too soon to miss George W. Bush? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 18, 2017, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282 "2017-06-18T13:51:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/81 "2017-06-19T17:37:16Z")
It’s never too early to miss President Bush. Heck, I was all set to miss him when he was still president. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/82 "2017-06-19T17:39:11Z")
Did you reload? ---
**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/83 "2017-06-19T19:00:35Z")
The point is, I couldn’t actually miss him until he was gone. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/84 "2017-06-19T19:15:50Z")
> [@Dale\_Sams](#): > > … > > Oh and LBJ was a racist, serial sexual assaulter. Seriously, if i go around pulling out my dick and showing it to everyone I’m gonna get put on a list. You know, Trump may well have exposed his piddlestick. We need to get a magnifying glass and go back over the prints. ---
**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/85 "2017-06-19T19:30:31Z")
If trumpster fire could have owned slaves, I’m sure he would have. ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/86 "2017-06-20T01:42:41Z")
> [@Crybaby\_Boobie](#): > > If trumpster fire could have owned slaves, I’m sure he would have. THE BEST SLAVES. I wonder if he’d gold leaf them too. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/87 "2017-06-20T03:24:48Z")
> [@Fair\_Rarity](#): > > THE BEST SLAVES. > > I wonder if he’d gold leaf them too. “Let me tell you about my slaves. My slaves love it here. They are the best slaves. I can hardly call them slaves, they love me and they love my wife, and speaking of my wife, she’s a hard worker too. She cooks, she cleans, she makes Mr. Clean look like Professor X. And speaking of Professor X…he’s kind of a slave master isn’t he? It’s not like those students have any other place to go. And they have to go to class or teach the classes. Do they get paid? That mansion looks expensive, I doubt they are paid. They’re slaves. But they arn’t the best slaves.” ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/88 "2017-06-20T14:22:26Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > And even aside from Watergate, Nixon sabotaged LBJ’s Vietnam peace talks, and kept the war going for another 4 years. > > So Nixon’s got all the downside of LBJ, with the additional downside of Watergate, and while Nixon had some good accomplishments, they’re hardly on the scale of LBJ’s. The opening up of China might well have been the greatest accomplishment any President has had since World War II, inasmuch as it was a key part of avoiding World War III. Detente with China changed the world balance of power. But people tend to remember their guests in terms of how they LEFT the festivities. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/89 "2017-06-20T14:27:13Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Trump hasn’t (yet) done anything to compare to the invasion of Iraq, so I’d say it is indeed too soon. Trump, to W: “Hold my beer.” ---
**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/90 "2017-06-20T21:27:41Z")
Say what you want, after he left the office, Bush did the “Presidential” thing and (for the most part) stepped back and let Obama govern. He rarely armchair quarterbacked, showing respect for the office. For the life of me, I don’t know how Obama is showing similar restraint. I know he’s made some comments at his various speaking engagements, but how he’s not shouting from the rooftops on a daily basis… it’s beyond me. I shudder to think what Trump will be like, post-presidency. I think it’s either gonna be an “Old Man Yells At Cloud” situation where he’s mostly ignored, or he’ll still be hogging the media spotlight, well after sliding into obscurity, with respect to having authority. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/91 "2017-06-20T21:32:42Z")
> [@Calatin](#): > > I shudder to think what Trump will be like, post-presidency. I think it’s either gonna be an “Old Man Yells At Cloud” situation where he’s mostly ignored, or he’ll still be hogging the media spotlight, well after sliding into obscurity, with respect to having authority. No matter how he leaves office, I don’t think he’ll be alive much longer. That’s not me saying that someone will kill him. That’s me saying he does not seem mentally well, and the stress is going to kill him. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/92 "2017-06-20T21:39:40Z")
George W Bush is and always has been a decent man without a bigoted bone in his body. It’s no accident that he and his family have such a warm and friendly relationship with the Obamas and Clintons now. It’s impossible to imagine Trump ever making friends with any of them. Bush, his father, Clinton and Obama are all good people; their policies were opposed but none of those policies were inspired by hate or prejudice. Things are sadly changed. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/93 "2017-06-20T21:51:19Z")
He’s not a bigot, but neither is he a decent man. He had people tortured. ---
**Author:** ![Dale\_Sams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/779978/32.png) [@Dale\_Sams](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dale_Sams)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/94 "2017-06-20T21:58:50Z")
> [@aldiboronti](#): > > George W Bush is and always has been a decent man without a bigoted bone in his body. It’s no accident that he and his family have such a warm and friendly relationship with the Obamas and Clintons now. It’s impossible to imagine Trump ever making friends with any of them. Bush, his father, Clinton and Obama are all good people; their policies were opposed but none of those policies were inspired by hate or prejudice. Things are sadly changed. I don’t really think Bill Clinton is a good person. I get where you’re coming from, I thought the same of Jimmy Carter and Bernie Sanders. I think everyone else were talking about would if a house was on fire run in to save someone. Let’s say that’s the bar. I get more of a Costanza vibe from Bill ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/95 "2017-06-20T22:44:40Z")
For the record, as a liberal, I want to say that I don’t miss Bush II. Why in the hell would I? That’s like wishing that instead of being in a cesspit, you were instead in a toilet. What’s wrong with wishing for a barcalounger? I want Clinton. Sure he was probably pretty despicable in his personal life, but I don’t care what my mechanic does in his personal life; why should I care about it in my president? And he presidented well. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/96 "2017-06-20T23:49:02Z")
> [@Bruiser1036](#): > > There is a [very thoughtful and interesting article](https://www.yahoo.com/news/soon-miss-george-w-bush-not-age-trump-090020001.html) on the newfound liberal romanticizing and respect for George W. Bush that has been outpouring this year, in the early stages of Trump’s presidency. > > I’m not a liberal, but I’m also not a Bush fan, and I do find it kind of hypocritical and bizarre for all the liberal Trump detractors all over the country to be blathering about how much they want Dubya back, seeing as how they hated his guts (for some reasons justified and not). Earlier this year, Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said she “never thought I would pray for the day that [George W. Bush] were president again.” > > What are your thoughts on all the left-wing hosannas that we have been seeing for Dubya recently? It’s crap, and to hell with W. He was a god damn disaster. Just because Rrump is a piece of shit, that doesn’t exonerate W for the things he did. Fuck the both of them. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/97 "2017-06-21T01:33:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Former President George W. Bush’s national image continues to improve in his retirement, with his favorable rating rising seven percentage points over the past year to 59%. This continues the fairly steady improvement in Bush’s favorable rating since it registered a meager 35% at the start of his post-presidential years in March 2009. > **[George W. Bush and Barack Obama Both Popular in Retirement](https://news.gallup.com/poll/212633/george-bush-barack-obama-popular-retirement.aspx)** > > Former President George W. Bush's favorable rating has jumped to 59% from 52% a year ago, nearly matching former President Barack Obama's first post-presidential favorable rating of 63%. Obama is at 63% ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/98 "2017-06-21T03:33:28Z")
> [@Bruiser1036](#): > > Or, it shows that over half of the electorate was smart enough to reject Kerry in 2004 and his extreme, ultra-liberal policies, as well as rejecting John Edwards as a potential vice-president. John Kerry? Uber-liberal? _Kerry_? Can you name some of these uber-liberal policies of John Kerry for us? ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/99 "2017-06-21T03:40:38Z")
You got to wonder what kind of president it would take, after Trump, to make people think, “Say you like about Trump, but at least he…” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 9:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282/100 "2017-06-21T09:56:01Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > You got to wonder what kind of president it would take, after Trump, to make people think, “Say you like about Trump, but at least he…” “…didn’t sacrifice _that_ many babies to a golden statue of himself.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-too-soon-to-miss-george-w-bush/789282.md?page=6)