# Is it true that Obama "should" be way more ahead than he is now?

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**Created:** [August 4, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-true-that-obama-should-be-way-more-ahead-than-he-is-now/458849 "2008-08-04T22:28:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![ManiacMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@ManiacMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ManiacMan)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-true-that-obama-should-be-way-more-ahead-than-he-is-now/458849/81 "2008-08-10T02:53:19Z")

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[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]  
No, the majority of that coverage is negative, as I already showed. You never demonstrated that the study recognizes any definitional difference between “coverage” and “on air evaluation.”  
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You quoted one site that has been under scrutiny. All those watchdog journalism groups are under scrutiny amongst one another. This one says that that that one is liberal. The other one says that this one is conservative…those “think-tanks” are all a bunch of dumb-asses. Scientific they say…whatever!

If (and thats a huge IF) he really did have more “negative” coverage last week, he will probably have more postive coverage next week. The “negative” coverage he gets is just a pointed “tough” question that actually gives him the wonderful oportunity to address an important issue on the record for all to see. So he gets asked a “tough” question and lefties get to say "ooooh the media is so mean to poor Obama, but then Obama turns it around and answers eloquently, and the liberal hordes scream in ecstasy while pissing their pants in joy. It’s not like he is getting asked real stumpers is he? It’s not like he is getting ambushed is he? It’s not like he takes his microphone in disgust and leaves a venue, right?

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-true-that-obama-should-be-way-more-ahead-than-he-is-now/458849/82 "2008-08-10T03:55:36Z")

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[QUOTE=ManiacMan]  
Those are Democratic towns…you sure they are calling Detroit and Dearborn?  
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absolutely. Bigotry is a big problem in this country.

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**Author:** ![ManiacMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@ManiacMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ManiacMan)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-true-that-obama-should-be-way-more-ahead-than-he-is-now/458849/83 "2008-08-10T12:34:46Z")

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[QUOTE=gonzomax]  
absolutely. Bigotry is a big problem in this country.  
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Those are democratic towns by the way.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-true-that-obama-should-be-way-more-ahead-than-he-is-now/458849/84 "2008-08-10T15:02:51Z")

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So?

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**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-true-that-obama-should-be-way-more-ahead-than-he-is-now/458849/85 "2008-08-10T15:11:05Z")

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[QUOTE=ManiacMan]  
You quoted one site that has been under scrutiny. All those watchdog journalism groups are under scrutiny amongst one another. This one says that that that one is liberal. The other one says that this one is conservative…those “think-tanks” are all a bunch of dumb-asses. Scientific they say…whatever!

If (and thats a huge IF) he really did have more “negative” coverage last week, he will probably have more postive coverage next week. The “negative” coverage he gets is just a pointed “tough” question that actually gives him the wonderful oportunity to address an important issue on the record for all to see. So he gets asked a “tough” question and lefties get to say "ooooh the media is so mean to poor Obama, but then Obama turns it around and answers eloquently, and the liberal hordes scream in ecstasy while pissing their pants in joy. It’s not like he is getting asked real stumpers is he? It’s not like he is getting ambushed is he? It’s not like he takes his microphone in disgust and leaves a venue, right?  
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In other words, even though a cite has been given that disputes your \*assumptions \*and _perceptions_, and even though you are unable to dispute that cite with \*facts \*or _data_, you’re still right. But if even you are wrong, things will change next week and then you’ll be right. Does that about sum it up?

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**Author:** ![ManiacMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b782af/32.png) [@ManiacMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ManiacMan)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-true-that-obama-should-be-way-more-ahead-than-he-is-now/458849/86 "2008-08-10T18:30:59Z")

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[QUOTE=ShadowFacts]  
In other words, even though a cite has been given that disputes your \*assumptions \*and _perceptions_, and even though you are unable to dispute that cite with \*facts \*or _data_, you’re still right. But if even you are wrong, things will change next week and then you’ll be right. Does that about sum it up?  
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Ya because if its on the internets it must be true :rolleyes: .

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