# Is it truly impossible to trap mariana in a container with no scents permeating whatsoever **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [September 29, 2011, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988 "2011-09-29T05:41:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/41 "2011-10-01T15:08:20Z")
> [@Leo\_Bloom](#): > > I would go with the onie. I’ll repeat my question. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > So what’s an “onie?” ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/42 "2011-10-01T15:28:58Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > So what’s an “onie?” Obviously, one half of a twoie. I haven’t a clue. ---
**Author:** ![anson2995](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@anson2995](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anson2995)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/43 "2011-10-01T15:57:40Z")
> [@Amblydoper](#): > > **captainj954** , the members of this forum have hair triggers on inside jokes and common memes, as well as low tolerances for grammer and spelling errors. With respect, I think the question in the OP is odd and confusing, and even with a couple of follow-up posts it is unclear exactly what **captainj954** is asking. Are you asking what can be done to prevent the smell of marijuana smoke from attaching to objects in a way that can later be detected? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/44 "2011-10-01T17:07:55Z")
> [@anson2995](#): > > With respect, I think the question in the OP is odd and confusing, and even with a couple of follow-up posts it is unclear exactly what **captainj954** is asking. > > Are you asking what can be done to prevent the smell of marijuana smoke from attaching to objects in a way that can later be detected? I believe the OP is asking how to package marijuana in such a way as to be undetectable by sniffer dogs at a border control. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/45 "2011-10-01T21:59:37Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I’ll repeat my question. [Joe Friday] An onie is an ozer, Sir. A lid, a sack, a bag - 28g’s. It means an ounce. An ounce of marijuana. Reefer, pot, ‘mariana’ as some would call it. Now listen up and lisen good: Marajuana is the flame, heroin is the fuse, LSD is the bomb. Don’t you try to learn about containing the stench of marajuana here, Mister, not with me. You may be able to sell that jazz to another pothead, but not to somebody who holds some sick kid’s head while he vomits and wretches on a curbstone at 4:00 in the morning.[/Joe Friday] ---
**Author:** ![Jaledin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jaledin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaledin)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/46 "2011-10-01T22:24:01Z")
> [@Crazyhorse](#): > > [Joe Friday] An onie is an ozer, Sir. A lid, a sack, a bag - 28g’s. It means an ounce. An ounce of marijuana. Reefer, pot, ‘mariana’ as some would call it. Now listen up and lisen good: Marajuana is the flame, heroin is the fuse, LSD is the bomb. Don’t you try to learn about containing the stench of marajuana here, Mister, not with me. You may be able to sell that jazz to another pothead, but not to somebody who holds some sick kid’s head while he vomits and wretches on a curbstone at 4:00 in the morning.[/Joe Friday] Woah. Heavy. Is that an actual “Dragnet” quote? Cause if it is, I’d better get busy acquiring some expisodes! ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/47 "2011-10-01T22:25:08Z")
So it just means a quantity of an ounce, and not a specific type of packaging? Because this quote makes it sound like a container. > [@Chimera](#): > > Back in the early to mid 80’s, I took a onie full of pot to Europe. I filled it, washed the outside with soap and let it sit until dry. Then, several hours later, I washed my hands thoroughly (I think I even used bleach, may have been mopping the floor or something at the time) so no scent or chemicals on my hands. I took some saranwrap, layed it on the counter, put some black pepper on it, set the onie on it, wrapped it around, put more pepper in, wrapped again. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/48 "2011-10-01T22:26:40Z")
> [@Jaledin](#): > > Woah. Heavy. > > Is that an actual “Dragnet” quote? Cause if it is, I’d better get busy acquiring some expisodes! \*\*From Episode 36 - “The Prophet” (Written by David H. Vowell; Air date: January 11, 1968) \*\*(with excessive editing by Crazyhorse) ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/49 "2011-10-01T22:34:49Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > So it just means a quantity of an ounce, and not a specific type of packaging? Because this quote makes it sound like a container. I think so too, but it could have been an intended usage like: ‘an ounce full of pot’, though I’m not sure that really is what was intended. It isn’t an English word so that’s the only meaning I can make of it based on the context. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/50 "2011-10-01T22:39:17Z")
I doubt it could escape the event horizon of a black hole. What’s the speed of smell? ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/51 "2011-10-01T22:57:36Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > So it just means a quantity of an ounce, and not a specific type of packaging? Because this quote makes it sound like a container. After further consideration it probably means [Joe Friday] A “one hit” pipe, Sir. A pinch-hitter, a single shooter, a dug out. They use them to get a hit of the noxious vapors when they’re in the locker room, the school bus, the back of the classroom, even in church.[/Joe Friday] ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/52 "2011-10-01T23:30:04Z")
So, a “1-ee” of pot. Attempts for full alphabetization: oneee, one-ee, one-e. Using “ie” as a diminutive, “oneie.” Impossible to pronounce. Drop the first “e”: success (?). ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2011, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/53 "2011-10-01T23:33:39Z")
> [@captainj954](#): > > . . . Please only those who actually have scientific knowledge or real stories add in comments and answers. A good place to start would be someone who can actually give a description of what a smell or a marijuana scent actually scientifically is??? I would try magnetic plasma containment bottles 😃 (Sorry, captain, I couldn’t resist.) # – Senegoid “The nose” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Duality](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.duality/32/4098_2.png) [@Mr.Duality](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Duality)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/54 "2011-10-02T00:16:41Z")
Down at the head shop they sell special “no-stinky” baggies which, I’m told, seem to do a good job. Possibly they are good enough to prevent people from smelling their contents, but not dogs. I once saw some special kind of plastic wrap used in laboratories to seal test tubes and so forth. It was supposed to be impermeable, iirc. ---
**Author:** ![chacoguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@chacoguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chacoguy)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/55 "2011-10-02T00:34:44Z")
Scented candle. Cut in half with a hot knife, hollow out, place contents inside and melt back together. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/56 "2011-10-02T00:58:44Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I’ll repeat my question. A “onie” (Pronounced One-ee) is, and I am unaware of other terms for it at the moment, just having woken from a nap and not having used one in 8 years… A wooden container that holds a small amount of marijuana on one side and a short cigarette sized metal tube for smoking it out of on the other side. Ah, here you go. This site calls them “herbal smoke boxes” [http://www.legalbuds.com/pipes\_herbal-smoke-box.html](http://www.legalbuds.com/pipes_herbal-smoke-box.html) Was basically for taking one hit and then putting it away. Hence a One-ee. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/57 "2011-10-02T11:11:01Z")
Not to be confused with [Japanese demons](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oni_%28folklore%29) or [a Wookie](http://www.google.com/imgres?q=wookie&start=69&num=10&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&biw=1600&bih=890&tbm=isch&tbnid=n8aXGWwKB9FiBM:&imgrefurl=http://www.azsnakepit.com/2009/11/20/1166563/the-2009-pitties-rookie-of-the-year&docid=vPwGfqHU3BnGTM&w=366&h=288&ei=O0eITpG5FM6DtgfD54Uy&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=980&vpy=577&dur=657&hovh=199&hovw=253&tx=159&ty=176&sqi=2&page=3&tbnh=156&tbnw=197&ndsp=31&ved=1t:429,r:5,s:69) with a missing testicle. ---
**Author:** ![captainj954](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f05b48/32.png) [@captainj954](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/captainj954)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/58 "2011-10-02T18:12:28Z")
It started out as one of my buddies telling me that a dog can sniff through any material. I have always viewed drug addicts as weak unscientific people who cannot think for themselves. When I looked it up on the net about how there have been no fool proof ways to contain specifically marijuana undetectable I found it rather odd. Me being primarily a scientific person by nature and a free thinker found this finding to be rather abhorring due to the fact that it is merely a smell and not a radioactive substance. I do remember the smell of feces when I was a young kid in bags that have been sealed for the purpose of pranks and so i have always been aware of the nature of ziploc or other plastic bags so it makes sense to some degree. But on the other hand, I would like to know if there is any density material or type of material in certain thickness that does not allow any smells at all through. Mankind has always been able to contain things and compartmentalize things this is how man gets away with secrets. Every human should be entitled to certain amounts of privacy or secrecy and storing and posessing something in private should be possible given mans current technological condition. ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/59 "2011-10-02T18:57:00Z")
> [@captainj954](#): > > It started out as one of my buddies telling me that a dog can sniff through any material. I have always viewed drug addicts as weak unscientific people who cannot think for themselves. When I looked it up on the net about how there have been no fool proof ways to contain specifically marijuana undetectable I found it rather odd. Me being primarily a scientific person by nature and a free thinker found this finding to be rather abhorring due to the fact that it is merely a smell and not a radioactive substance. I do remember the smell of feces when I was a young kid in bags that have been sealed for the purpose of pranks and so i have always been aware of the nature of ziploc or other plastic bags so it makes sense to some degree. But on the other hand, I would like to know if there is any density material or type of material in certain thickness that does not allow any smells at all through. Mankind has always been able to contain things and compartmentalize things this is how man gets away with secrets. Every human should be entitled to certain amounts of privacy or secrecy and storing and posessing something in private should be possible given mans current technological condition. Dogs don’t sniff ‘through’ materials, they smell the contents, the container, what you ate for breakfast 3 days ago, all at the same time at the same moment, in layers. Sniffer dogs are trained to recognize one of those layers and alert to it. If a dog smells marijuana hidden inside a mason jar which is inside a gas tank which is full of gas, which is inside a vehicle that is inside a shipping container, the dog isn’t smelling ‘through’ all those things, he smells all of them at once and recognizes the marijuana smell. Some dogs can smell things measured in parts per trillion. One tiny molecule of marijuana anywhere outside the container is detectable and it is very hard to wash something so thoroughly there isn’t one molecule of anything left on the outside. Eventually odor will permeate through just about any barrier even if the container were washed completely. There isn’t a container that could mask the odor for very long and also be practical for smuggling. It would be highly suspicious to travel with any such container and humans would alert to that even if the dogs didn’t. ---
**Author:** ![busterpickle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/258eb7/32.png) [@busterpickle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/busterpickle)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2011, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988/60 "2011-10-03T04:37:44Z")
I question the metal containers being welded shut tactic. As, welding metal usually gets pretty hot and would catch the substance on fire. Plus, it generates toxic gases which would then be trapped in the container and could infuse with the substance. I do think, that you could “solder” the container shut. Like back in the day when they used lead to seal up canned food. That might actually work. Steel or brass containers soldered shut with a lead based solder. Or, possibly, you could use a thick plastic container made of acrylic, PTFE, or PFA. Then, seal the container with a lid and use either a glue or even weld it shut (some plastics can be welded). Those three plastics, have very low, gas-permeability. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-it-truly-impossible-to-trap-mariana-in-a-container-with-no-scents-permeating-whatsoever/597988.md?page=4)