# Is Jan Brewer an alcoholic?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [September 2, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431 "2010-09-02T21:22:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/21 "2010-09-03T14:22:18Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> The OP appears to me to be a cheap shot.

Yeah. Poor woman’s had way too many cheap shots already!

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**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/22 "2010-09-03T16:01:20Z")

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[Relevant](http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/jan-brewer-speechless-on-headless-bodies-video.php).

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/23 "2010-09-03T16:51:21Z")

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Thanks, **Troy**. I had been reading about that in the paper this morning, but hadn’t yet seen the clip.

This lady is fucked. I can’t imagine how she’ll get elected, especially if this type of thing continues from her, but if she does get elected, I think AZ will find itself fucked up beyond anything we can envision at the end of her term.

This is gonna be great fun to watch!

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/24 "2010-09-03T18:54:18Z")

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We all have encountered drunks like acted like she did in the debate. That is not proof of course. But it sure makes you wonder. It was her opening speech that she probably rehearsed 50 times. It was very important for setting a tone. It did ,but not like she wanted. She should have said forgive m," I am a tea bagger so cut me some slack".  
She acted totally befuddled when the press asked her what was going on. She could have defused it with any reasonable answer. She had none. It was a horrible performance that will not sway tea baggers away from her.

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/25 "2010-09-03T20:54:19Z")

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> [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](#):
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> [Relevant](http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/09/jan-brewer-speechless-on-headless-bodies-video.php).

That bothers me a lot more than the clip in the OP.

I don’t know that she was drunk, but she is clearly addled in some way or the other. Dementia?

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/26 "2010-09-03T21:13:58Z")

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Too bad she isn’t running against Phil Gordon. She’d look sober by comparison.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/27 "2010-09-03T22:45:21Z")

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My first thought was “over-rehearsed” - she had the look of someone who had her script memorized, but forgot a cue and had to improvise, something her “advisers” had sternly told her not to do.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/28 "2010-09-03T23:00:27Z")

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Well, today she sort of backpedaled on her beaheadings comment.

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> [@AZ Gov. Jan Brewer](#):
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> That was an error, if I said that.

]([http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US\_ARIZONA\_GOVERNOR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-09-03-18-29-23](http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ARIZONA_GOVERNOR?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-09-03-18-29-23))

If?

> [@AZ Gov. Jan Brewer](#):
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> …the kidnappings and the extortion and the beheadings and the fact that people can’t feel safe in their community.

> [@AZ Gov. Jan Brewer](#):
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> Oh, our law enforcement agencies have found bodies in the desert, either buried or just lying out there, that have been beheaded.

IF???

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/29 "2010-09-03T23:46:55Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Originally Posted by AZ Gov. Jan Brewer  
> Oh, **our law enforcement agencies** have found bodies in the desert, either buried or just lying out there, that have been beheaded.

This proves she was not talking about bodies being found in Mexico either.

She has a pretty substantial lead over her opponent so it doesn’t look like he’ll overtake her, unless she commits several more major blunders and his campaigns comes on really strong.

And, okay, I’ll say it: does she not have any other jacket but that lemon-lime number? She needs to take a page from the Sarah Palin Book of Campaign Perks – I’ll forgive her if it gives my eyes a rest!

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/30 "2010-09-04T00:37:19Z")

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Still, [Brewer has been leading Goddard soundly.](http://ballotpedia.org/wiki/index.php/Arizona_gubernatorial_election,_2010) Are any post-debate polls available yet?

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/31 "2010-09-04T04:13:01Z")

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The sad thing is she’ll probably still win. _shudder_

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/32 "2010-09-04T04:20:00Z")

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Oh, she’s pretty much a lock. The whole “git the fedrul guhmint oudda mah bizniss / I’ll keep mah guns and munny, you keep the ‘CHANGE’” thing is huge here, and she’s playing to it bigtime.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/33 "2010-09-04T04:23:13Z")

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NPR interviewed a local Arizona political correspondent on Friday afternoon. He said most people were a bit nonplussed by her performance (her “deer in the headlights moment,” as he described it), but that she was very, very popular for signing the illegal immigration crackdown bill, and would probably still win reelection.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/34 "2010-09-04T04:59:40Z")

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At one point I had gotten the impression that she was genuinely struggling about whether or not to sign it. I think her final decision wasn’t based on a question about whether or not it was the right thing to do. I think the question was, “do I want to be elected governor?”

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/35 "2010-09-04T14:14:01Z")

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She has decided to forgo all future debates. Participating in this one gave her 1.7 million dollars in campaign funds. There is no more to get by more debates.  
She has the right wing and the haters whipped up . That should insure her election. I thought there was more to governance than that. Live and learn.  
She knows where the bodies are buried. Oops ,she doesn’t after all.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/36 "2010-09-04T15:07:38Z")

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I also think she’ll win. McCain has drawn only token opposition and there aren’t any hot button ballot issues. SB1070 will be in the courts for a long time and the general election will be decided by paranoid seniors who live in fear of the Mexican drug cartel attacking the Sun City Shuffleboard league.

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/37 "2010-09-04T19:52:24Z")

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The crime rate is at very low levels, yet screaming wolf still works.  
People who proudly proclaim ,“i don’t vote for the party, i vote for the person”, are going to have it easy. She is a joke of a candidate.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/38 "2010-09-04T20:26:44Z")

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> [@gonzomax](#):
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> She has the right wing and the haters whipped up . That should insure her election.

So in the **gonzo** world, you either have to favor being the only country in the world that allows unfettered immigration from neighboring countries, or you’re a “hater”.

Is that how it works?

I used to think this kind of hooey was simply a tactic to get impressionable people whipped up against conservatives, but the more time I spend around here the more it becomes obvious you people really think this way.

Scary.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/39 "2010-09-04T20:50:23Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> > [@gonzomax](#):
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> > She has the right wing and the haters whipped up . That should insure her election.
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> So in the **gonzo** world, you either have to favor being the only country in the world that allows unfettered immigration from neighboring countries, or you’re a “hater”.
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> Is that how it works?
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> I used to think this kind of hooey was simply a tactic to get impressionable people whipped up against conservatives, but the more time I spend around here the more it becomes obvious you people really think this way.
> 
> Scary.

Hang on. Lemme see if I can get you some help with that big brush your painting with.

Hmmm.  
Nope; no one wants to help you paint with that.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/40 "2010-09-04T21:02:10Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> > [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> > So in the **gonzo** world, you either have to favor being the only country in the world that allows unfettered immigration from neighboring countries, or you’re a “hater”.
> > 
> > Is that how it works?
> > 
> > I used to think this kind of hooey was simply a tactic to get impressionable people whipped up against conservatives, but the more time I spend around here the more it becomes obvious you people really think this way.
> > 
> > Scary.
> 
> Hang on. Lemme see if I can get you some help with that big brush your painting with.

Can you offer an alternative explanation for the reason why anyone on the right who opposes illegal immigration is pretty much automatically referred to by lefties as a ‘hater’? I’ve seen nothing coming from any liberal anywhere to indicate that they feel conservative opposition to illegal immigration is based upon anything but racial hatred and/or xenophobia.

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