# Is Jan Brewer an alcoholic? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [September 2, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431 "2010-09-02T21:22:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/61 "2010-09-06T14:44:41Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > your post had nothing to do with the comment it was alleged to address. You kidding? My post was a very direct response to what you said. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I have not heard a single liberal anywhere in the country express any sort of determination to halt illegal immigration Then you aren’t listening. That’s not our fault. Maybe you shouldn’t stick your fingers in your ears when liberals talk. > [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And to counter this you offer one bill from one state and, after claiming it was drafted by a group similar to a modern version of the KKK, attempt to use that to claim you’ve proven me wrong. “One bill from one state”? You some kind of comedian? Do I need to remind you how this whole sidetrack got started? Do I need to remind you to look at the topic of the thread? Do I need to remind you that this “one bill from one state” has been a huge national issue for months? Calling SB1070 “one bill from one state” is like calling [this](http://user.mc.net/hawk/doracol.jpg) “just some gun.” Calling it that in thread about Jan Brewer, in a response about her immigration policy, is Gold Medal-level disingenuousness. And then to tell me my post “wasn’t worth responding to” . . . if you’re not too “busy” to come back, bring some substance and probity next time. ---
**Author:** ![Peanut\_Gallery](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/838e76/32.png) [@Peanut\_Gallery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanut_Gallery)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/62 "2010-09-06T16:20:13Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > I have not heard a single liberal anywhere in the country express any sort of determination to halt illegal immigration… [Don’t look now…](http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2010/0812/Obama-as-border-cop-He-s-deported-record-numbers-of-illegal-immigrants) ---
**Author:** ![Chicagojeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@Chicagojeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chicagojeff)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/63 "2010-09-06T18:30:33Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > > [@Simplicio](#): > > > > What a silly claim. > > Nonsense. Any person who claims to be politically aware and who lives in the capital of their state has the best opportunity to follow and be aware of their state’s politics, and has no excuse to plead ignorance. So following your logic a great many citizens in SC should have known that the Guv’na was meeting up with a trollop in Argentina and not actually hiking? HUH? Even the local media was dumbfounded when he pull that. If a random reporter hadn’t seen the guy in Hartsfield and mentioned it.. as far as we know he’d be battling for the GOP nomination. I wouldn’t conclude that political information flows evenly in all 50 states.. in Illinois we heard little to nothing about the governor because I was in Chicago and almost no one lives in Springpatch. ---
**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/64 "2010-09-06T21:07:02Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > > [@sleestak](#): > > > > Post snipped. > > > > I assume you have cites for those claims, right? > > > > If so, I’d really like to see them. > > > > Slee > > Can you be more specific? Most of what I said is common knowledge, which is why - I assume - **Starving Artist** sent the cricket brigade in to reply for him. So it is common knowledge that SB1070 was ‘influenced or flat-out written by white supremacist groups’? You need a cite there buddy. Your alligation, your responsiblity to back it up. For what it is worth, I am all for as much immigration as possible, as long as it is done legally. Get rid of quotas. And I am for making the legal process as simple and quick as possible while still being secure. Slee ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/65 "2010-09-06T22:55:06Z")
One of the important sponsors of SB1070 was Russell Pierce. Pierce forwarded emails during the campaign from National Alliance ,a white separatist group. He also was a backer of J.T. Ready for political office.Ready has neo nazi affiliations. Pierce has also been backed by Federation of American Immigration Reform ,which has been identified as a "hate group’ by the SPLC. So it is not a long stretch to connect hate groups with the Immigration Bill. ---
**Author:** ![Mozart1220](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Mozart1220](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mozart1220)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/66 "2010-09-14T17:44:31Z")
Maybe she needs a wire in here ear like Bush had in the 2000 debates. ---
**Author:** ![Mozart1220](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f1d935/32.png) [@Mozart1220](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mozart1220)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431/67 "2010-09-14T17:46:06Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > > [@Cisco](#): > > > > Most of what I said is common knowledge, which is why - I assume - **Starving Artist** sent the cricket brigade in to reply for him. > > No, crickets chipred because: a.) I have a life and I’ve spent much of the day away; and b.) your post had nothing to do with the comment it was alleged to address. I have not heard a single liberal anywhere in the country express any sort of determination to halt illegal immigration, but I have heard all sorts of claims by liberals that determination to halt illegal immigration is based only upon racism, hatred and/or xenophobia. It seems liberals don’t even like the term ‘illegal immigrants’, preferring the term "undocumented immigrants’ instead. > > And to counter this you offer one bill from one state and, after claiming it was drafted by a group similar to a modern version of the KKK, attempt to use that to claim you’ve proven me wrong. > > So, all in all, I just didn’t see anything in your post worth responding to…and I was busy besides. When conservatives stop hiring them as cheap labor, they will stop coming. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-jan-brewer-an-alcoholic/552431.md?page=3)