# Is Joe Biden's campaign over before it starts? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [March 30, 2019, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-joe-bidens-campaign-over-before-it-starts/831783 "2019-03-30T21:31:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-joe-bidens-campaign-over-before-it-starts/831783/381 "2019-04-24T04:17:48Z")
> [@Thing\_Fish](#): > > What does Russian interference in the 2016 election have to do with the validity of complaints of inappropriate touch against Joe Biden now? šŸ˜• I was responding to what was said in the post below, and didnā€™t relate it to Joe Biden and his over-familiarity with people. I thought **MyFootsZZZ** ā€™s meaning referred to an idea that Sandersā€™ 2016 campaign wasnā€™t touched by Russian interference. Probably filtered through my brain that way as I had been reading the Mueller report shortly before. > [@MyFootsZZZ](#): > > Wat? > > Donā€™t bring Russia into this. Vlad didnā€™t put his hands all over people. > > \ I see what was meant now, and with that understanding, my response was a complete non sequitur. Sorry about that. ---
**Author:** ![Thing\_Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecb155/32.png) [@Thing\_Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing_Fish)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2019, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-joe-bidens-campaign-over-before-it-starts/831783/382 "2019-04-24T05:56:29Z")
Gotcha. No problem. But What do you mean about Sandersā€™ campaign not being ā€œtouched by Russian interferenceā€? Granted that the Russians in 2016 supported Sanders, in order to weaken Clinton, in order to achieve their goal of electing Trump. But are you asserting that the Sanders campaign, like the Trump campaign, was in close contact with Russian intelligence agents throughout the campaign, knew about the Russian interference on its behalf, and chose to encourage and welcome said interference rather than reporting it to the FBI? If so, a cite would be appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-joe-bidens-campaign-over-before-it-starts/831783/383 "2019-04-25T08:51:43Z")
[Founder of union-busting law firm is helping host Bidenā€™s first fundraiser today](http://paydayreport.com/union-busting-lawyer-to-host-bidens-1st-fundraiser-thursday/) > [@](#): > > PITTSBURGH, PA. ā€“ On Monday, Vice President Joe Biden intends to launch his presidential campaign at the Teamsters Local 249 in Pittsburgh with United Steelworkers President Leo Gerard appearing alongside him. > > However, first, on Thursday, Biden is hosting a $2,800 dollar-a-plate fundraiser at the mansion of Comcast Executive President David Cohen in Philadelphia. Among the dozen select political power players on the host committee for Bidenā€™s 1st fundraiser are Steven Cozen, founder and chairman of the union-busting law firm Cozen Oā€™Connor. > > According to Cozen Oā€™Connor website, the firm specializes in union busting advertising that it helps employers to ā€œavoid unionization through positive employee relations and regain nonunion status when employees indicate they no longer wish to be union-representedā€. > > The firms also boasts on its website that it helps employers to lock out their unionized workforce. You canā€™t be friends with everybody, Joe. At some point, youā€™ve got to choose between the people in the Teamsters and the Steelworkers, and the people who have been working for decades to render those unions impotent. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-joe-bidens-campaign-over-before-it-starts/831783/384 "2019-04-25T10:49:12Z")
The McCains plan to support Joe Biden against Trump. I thought that was interesting and might help sway some Republican voters. McCain always commanded more respect then most Republicans with independents and even Dems. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-joe-bidens-campaign-over-before-it-starts/831783/385 "2019-04-25T11:58:47Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > [Founder of union-busting law firm is helping host Bidenā€™s first fundraiser today](http://paydayreport.com/union-busting-lawyer-to-host-bidens-1st-fundraiser-thursday/) > You canā€™t be friends with everybody, Joe. At some point, youā€™ve got to choose between the people in the Teamsters and the Steelworkers, and the people who have been working for decades to render those unions impotent. Biden is generally well regarded by labor organizations like AFL-CIO. If he has a weakness in terms of his voting record, itā€™s probably his coziness with big banks and big corporations. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-joe-bidens-campaign-over-before-it-starts/831783/386 "2019-04-25T11:58:47Z")
Joe had a nice roll out video. Iā€™m not excited about him though, it feels like a repeat of Hilary. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-joe-bidens-campaign-over-before-it-starts/831783/387 "2019-04-25T13:39:36Z")
Wow, Iā€™m staying off Twitter today. The intensity of the anti-Biden brigade is amazing. Iā€™m sure some of it is from Bernie Bros and some is probably from troll farms. I kinda wish Biden hadnā€™t ran, his time was 2016. Now weā€™re in for months of creepy Uncle Joe memes and nonstop talk about that on cable news and the Sunday talk shows. The one good thing is that I think letting Biden suck up all the oxygen for a while allows Mayor Pete to get out of the spotlight for a bit. I really like Pete but itā€™s probably time his momentum cools down just a bit. He needs a bit more time to organize a serious campaign and a few less interviews right now. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-joe-bidens-campaign-over-before-it-starts/831783/388 "2019-04-25T13:53:59Z")
I think itā€™s time to let this thread fade. Heā€™s in. Take it there. This question is answered. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-joe-bidens-campaign-over-before-it-starts/831783.md?page=19)