Just curious: Is this thread going to (finally) die when ABC runs its UFO special with Peter Jennings on Thursday?
Interesting comments and discussion.
I can assure you that John of God is not a fraud in the sense that nothing goes on there. However, the ‘Casa’ should be avoided at all costs from my own experience as whatever goes on there is not from this world.
This is my story. I went to the Casa three years ago as I was extremely ill and ended up staying a year. At first I did not believe the Casa could do the things they claimed nor the accounts of the people who experienced such phenomenon. I put it down to a ‘placebo effect’ or people’s desperation to find God.
I wanted to ‘have faith’ as well in order to recover from my own illness but I was still highly skeptical. However, as I experienced for myself things that defied my understanding and comprehension and witnessed more, I realized that what goes on there is beyond our understanding.
People are often so desperate (as I was) or want to believe so much in something like God in a tangible way that they are willing to ignore the fact that they really have no idea what they are getting into. Those who go there are pressured to ‘have faith’ and ‘not question.’ Yet thousands of people are willing to entrust their lives and bodies to something that is not from this world.
Since returning from my trip, I was attacked physically and mentally for the last several years in ways that defy explanation to most people. It has almost been unbearable at times and I have been in fear on my safety and my life and this is just the tip of the iceberg. I wish I had never gone to this place as nothing like this had ever occurred until I got involved with John of God.
If you find this hard to believe I don’t blame you as I would be thinking the same thing had I not gone through it myself. I wasn’t some crazed ‘new agey’ guy either prone to believing in weird or unusual phenomenon’s. Prior to becoming ill, I had a career and had never thought much about this type of stuff but severe illness can make you open to almost anything if you think it will make you better.
You will only hear rosy stories coming from the Casa guides and the Casa literature but what you don’t hear is the people like myself who have had horrible experiences. Most people and literature promoting the Casa try to explain what goes on there in a ‘bibleesque’ way that packages it so people feel safe, secure and can make sense of it. But having been there and experienced it myself, whatever it is, is beyond our comprehension and the ‘packaging’ of the Casa and ‘John of God’ is a highly effective form of manipulation.
Furthermore, ‘John of God’ the man is not the real problem; it is whatever is working through him. Whatever this place is, it does not belong on this earth. My best advice if you are considering going there because 1) you or your loved ones are in a desperate situation as I was 2) you are seeking a deeper spirituality/God connection - think long and hard before getting into something that defies our understanding.
Though there are thousands of people who have been helped by the Casa would strongly disagree with me, whatever this place is, it does not belong on this earth.
Thomas Kouns
Oh, so close. It was in a six-year coma, is all.
Yeah, about that, magic doesn’t exist. That dude has no supernatural powers and nothing is working through him.
Sigh.
And, not for nothing, but if you’re being “attacked physically and mentally for the last several years in ways that defy explanation to most people,” I’d suggest looking Paranoid Schizophrenia and run with that baby.
I assume you have not rejected Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, werewolves, werevirigns, mole people, or half-monkey half-elm tree spirits? The only reason to reject any of these is the lack of evidence of their existance, and the occasional violaitons of the known laws of physics, bilogogy, etc. But, of course, we could simply be wrong about the physics or science, so the evidence is the primary reason. Do you have any evidence that werevirgins don’t exist?
I tried not to ask. I really did.
What’s a werevirgin?
Check the dates on the posts. It’s a 6 year old zombie thread and EvanS hasn’t been on the site since March of '05.
6 years later and he’s still around…
Ah - that’s a damn shame, I was really looking forward to his response. At least I got to raise the spectre of the werevirgin again…
As to what one is, well - it’s everything you fear it is. http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=12895377
“There . . . *there *virgin.”
or at least call the fucking cops.
a there-there-virign sounds like a woman who gives pitty fucks…
that James Randi will appear on ABC tonight to debunk more psychic crap:
Never mind that. What’s a bilogogy? Is it like a chupacabra?
A six-year-old zombie thread revived.
<al michaels> "Do you believe in miracles!!?? <am>
You can’t prove it doesn’t exist. Stop being so small minded.
Can only be stopped with a silver dingaling.
Actually,
paranoid schizophrenia would have at least been treatable.
John of Cthulhu?