# Is Kamala Harris the first to draw so much on her membership in a Greek organization? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [August 1, 2024, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-kamala-harris-the-first-to-draw-so-much-on-her-membership-in-a-greek-organization/1005086 "2024-08-01T00:31:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-kamala-harris-the-first-to-draw-so-much-on-her-membership-in-a-greek-organization/1005086/41 "2024-08-04T00:06:08Z")
As a white guy who was never in a fraternity it seems like the black fraternity/sorority experience is much different. Everyone I know who was in a non-black fraternity made a big deal about it while they were in school. They would go back to homecoming events for a few years after then mostly forgot about it beyond a couple of friendships. The black fraternity members I know continue to post about events and reunions well into their 50s (so far). It seems to be a more enduring part of their lives. Don’t get in between two Q Dogs when they meet. I’m not surprised that the bond is still strong with VP Harris especially since she went to Howard. Black fraternities and sororities are particularly strong at HBCUs. > [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > > [@PastTense](#): > > > > One third (15 out of 45 Presidents) have been Freemasons. Did any of them draw a lot on the organization? > > Haven’t you fnord read [_The Illuminatus! Trilogy_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy)? > > Stranger No. Please tell me more about it. > **Summary** > > Fnord ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-kamala-harris-the-first-to-draw-so-much-on-her-membership-in-a-greek-organization/1005086/42 "2024-08-04T00:15:08Z")
> [@Loach](#): > > As a white guy who was never in a fraternity it seems like the black fraternity/sorority experience is much different. Everyone I know who was in a non-black fraternity made a big deal about it while they were in school. They would go back to homecoming events for a few years after then mostly forgot about it beyond a couple of friendships. This. As a semi-white guy who was in a fraternity this is the typical scenario. In addition, even while in school there was close to zero interaction with chapters at other colleges or with the national organization. Chapters at different schools would be jock houses, nerd houses, head houses. Nothing in common except for the name. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-kamala-harris-the-first-to-draw-so-much-on-her-membership-in-a-greek-organization/1005086/43 "2024-08-04T00:38:11Z")
I wasn’t in a fraternity either but when they were trying to sell us on the idea of pledging, they talked up the lifelong connections and how it would help later during job searches. It doesn’t seem to be the case for the “white” fraternities though maybe it is for the black ones. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-kamala-harris-the-first-to-draw-so-much-on-her-membership-in-a-greek-organization/1005086/44 "2024-08-04T01:53:04Z")
It probably was for white frats a couple of generations back. Those days are gone. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-kamala-harris-the-first-to-draw-so-much-on-her-membership-in-a-greek-organization/1005086/45 "2024-08-04T02:22:44Z")
There are traditionally Jewish sororities that are much like the Black women’s sororities, valuing education and networking. Astronaut Judith Resnik, who died in the Challenger disaster, was a member of one at Carnegie Mellon, Alpha Epsilon Phi, of which I know other women members today. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-kamala-harris-the-first-to-draw-so-much-on-her-membership-in-a-greek-organization/1005086.md?page=2)