# Is Lance Armstrong about to admit he cheated?

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 5, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159 "2013-01-05T15:09:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![Implicit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Implicit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Implicit)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/142 "2013-01-18T18:07:36Z")

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Claiming he didn’t dope in his comeback is not credible. My impression from the interview is that he didn’t come clean, therefore he’s still dirty as hell. I hope he remains banned for life.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/143 "2013-01-18T18:16:23Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> No way. He’s banned for life, and they’re not going to downgrade their ban and make it retroactive just because he contradicted their report. Why would they believe him?

Not saying they will – the blood evidence from those two years clearly says ‘once chance in a million’ it wasn’t tainted. But rather positing a reason Lance threw that out there as a “trial balloon” of sorts after his ‘wholehearted’ confession.

Of course, it won’t happen – but he can always do another interview in Sept saying he _lied in this one_. 😉

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/144 "2013-01-18T18:37:01Z")

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> [@colonial](#):
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> He has stolen millions of dollars. What does it take?- kill someone?

Prize money you mean?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/145 "2013-01-18T18:39:19Z")

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> [@drm](#):
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> Prize money you mean?

Or the money he got from suing people and newspapers who told the truth about what he was doing.

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/146 "2013-01-18T18:51:50Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Or the money he got from suing people and newspapers who told the truth about what he was doing.

There is that, yes. I guess my anger towards lance burnt out a while ago. As I said before, this info has been out a long time. I was far angrier as all this stuff was happening.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/147 "2013-01-18T22:35:25Z")

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I think this is funny just because it’s so mundane: Armstrong is even bullshitting about the dictionary definition of “cheat.” Any dictionary definition of the word is going to include ideas like deception and breaking the rules. All he remembered is ‘to gain an advantage on a rival.’ So if he ever looked up the word at all, he picked the definition he considered most favorable to himself, ignored that it has to be an unfair advantage, and ignored ones that clearly applied to him and his conduct.

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**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/148 "2013-01-18T23:03:27Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> I think this is funny just because it’s so mundane: Armstrong is even bullshitting about the dictionary definition of “cheat.” Any dictionary definition of the word is going to include ideas like deception and breaking the rules. All he remembered is ‘to gain an advantage on a rival.’ So if he ever looked up the word at all, he picked the definition he considered most favorable to himself, ignored that it has to be an unfair advantage, and ignored ones that clearly applied to him and his conduct.

I pretty much sprained a muscle rolling my eyes at this one. How much more of a slimy, condescending, douchebag could he be. “Gee, I didn’t know if I was lying, cheating, and being deceptive, so I looked in a dictionary. And wouldn’t you know, I wasn’t doing any of those things!”

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2013, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/149 "2013-01-18T23:12:39Z")

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In a just world Armstrong and Roger Clemens would wind up sharing a cramped bachelor pad (or jail cell). They have the same personality and it’d be nice for them to know what it’s like to deal with such an unbearable asshole.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Barchetta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/da6949/32.png) [@Red\_Barchetta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Barchetta)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/150 "2013-01-19T02:08:28Z")

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Part 2’s on now  
[http://ownspecial.oprah.com/lancearmstrong.html](http://ownspecial.oprah.com/lancearmstrong.html)

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/151 "2013-01-19T03:16:59Z")

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Boring as hell. Oprah did as good as possible but the whole thing was boring.

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**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/152 "2013-01-19T10:42:43Z")

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Hopefully Oprah included a ‘no-lying’ clause in the contract she and LA signed before the interview, so that when it turns out later that he did dope during his comeback, she too can sue him for the money she paid him for this interview.

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/153 "2013-01-19T14:01:53Z")

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I don’t think Oprah pays for interviews, does she?

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/154 "2013-01-19T15:27:03Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> I don’t think Oprah pays for interviews, does she?

Yea, I’m curious about this to. LA kinda seemed like a guy who was there just to get it over with and collect a pay-check. And money makes a lot more sense as a reason to (partially) confess then the weird theory that this is part of an extremely longshot plan to make a comeback on the triathlon circuit.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/155 "2013-01-19T16:56:59Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> I pretty much sprained a muscle rolling my eyes at this one. How much more of a slimy, condescending, douchebag could he be. “Gee, I didn’t know if I was lying, cheating, and being deceptive, so I looked in a dictionary. And wouldn’t you know, I wasn’t doing any of those things!”

A friend of mine posted this one my Facebook wall ( I assume he wouldn’t mind my repeating it): “…I love the quote that ‘I’m a flawed character.’ It reminds me of a scene from Buffy. I imagine Principal Snyder would say, ‘You’ve cheated and lied in public for decades. That’s quite the character flaw.’”

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/156 "2013-01-19T18:53:04Z")

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> Quoth **Marley23** :
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> That’s why I said "ordered or outright pushed. I should have written “outright ordered or pushed,” but still: the point is he denied ordering anyone to dope and he denied suggesting or implying to anyone that they needed to start doping. He ruled out the scenario you are suggesting, and defies belief.

Yeah, OK, if he said that he never even encouraged anyone else to dope, that’s probably a lie, unless you’re mincing the word “encourage” awfully fine.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/157 "2013-01-19T20:57:11Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> A friend of mine posted this one my Facebook wall ( I assume he wouldn’t mind my repeating it): “…I love the quote that ‘I’m a flawed character.’ It reminds me of a scene from Buffy. I imagine Principal Snyder would say, ‘You’ve cheated and lied in public for decades. That’s quite the character flaw.’”

When does he say that in Buffy? It’s a great line and I want to find the clip, even if the quote isn’t exact. I assume he says this…to the mayor?

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/158 "2013-01-19T21:20:24Z")

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Here’s the scene:

> [@Buffy the Vampire Slayer](#):
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> SNYDER: As far as I’m concerned, this is a marriage made in heaven. Willow Rosenberg, despite her unsavory associations, represents the pinnacle of academic achievement at Sunnydale High. Percy West represents a devastating fast break and 50% from behind the three-point line.  
> WILLOW: I-I’m not sure I understand the marriage part.  
> SNYDER: You’ve got the brains, he’s got the fast break. It’s a perfect match.  
> WILLOW: Match? You want us to breed?  
> SNYDER: I want you to tutor him. Percy is flunking history. Nothing seems to be able to motivate him.  
> PERCY: (flippantly) Hey, I’m challenged.  
> SNYDER: You’re lazy, self-involved, and spoiled. That’s quite the challenge.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/159 "2013-01-19T21:22:23Z")

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Oh, it’s from “Doppelgangland.”

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2013, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/160 "2013-01-19T22:22:09Z")

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Thanks, knoff.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/161 "2013-01-25T21:02:42Z")

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[Oddly enough, here is Agassi’s comment on doping on tennis and what he thinks about the Armstrong situation.](http://uk.news.yahoo.com/agassi-shocked-saddened-armstrong-confession-083657303--ten.html)

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