# Is Lance Armstrong about to admit he cheated?

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**Created:** [January 5, 2013, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159 "2013-01-05T15:09:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/162 "2013-01-26T16:07:51Z")

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Kind of called this one:

[**Lance Armstrong lied to Oprah, says doping chief**](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/lancearmstrong/9828490/Lance-Armstrong-lied-to-Oprah-says-doping-chief.html)

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> \*\* Mr Tygart said that when Armstrong confessed to Winfrey that he had been a drugs cheat for all seven of his Tour de France titles he was telling the truth.
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> However Armstrong, 42, was adamant that his comeback in the 2009-2010 cycling season had involved no drugs.
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> This, Mr Tygart said, was both untrue and an attempt to avoid criminal action as he could be prosecuted for criminal fraud over misleading his sponsors that he was clean. The earlier years would be covered by the American statue of limitations on fraud, which prevents cases being resurrected years after the offences were committed.
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> Mr Tygart told the American broadcaster CBS’s 60 Minutes documentary programme that the claims of a clean comeback were “just contrary to the evidence”.
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> “His blood tests in 2009, 2010 - expert reports based on the variation of his blood values - from those tests, one to a million chance that it was due to something other than doping,” he said.
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> Mr Tygart said there was solid evidence of cheating because there was correspondence between Armstrong and Dr Michele Ferrari, who has been banned from helping athletes for life over his involvement in doping, during his comeback season.\*\*

That said, if you read the article, there is also talk of a possible reduction to his lifetime ban if he fully cooperates with the USADA.

So I still think it was a two-pronged lie.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/163 "2013-01-26T16:33:44Z")

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Armstrong also said he refuses to cooperate with any investigation by USADA but would work with a “truth and reconciliation commission,” which seems to be an idea he made up for the Oprah interview. I assume the difference is that if there were a commission of that type, [what he says couldn’t be used against him.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_and_Reconciliation_Commission_%28South_Africa%29)\* USADA wouldn’t agree to that kind of crap, and besides, fuck USADA - they didn’t believe the great Lance Armstrong! What’s wrong with them!

\*I’m oversimplifying what they did in South Africa a little bit here, but when Armstrong throws this idea out there, I think it’s clear he is saying he would tell the truth and sell out everybody else only if it could be guaranteed that he wouldn’t face further sanctions and wouldn’t be hit with any more lawsuit or any perjury charges.

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**Author:** ![computergeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e56c9b/32.png) [@computergeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/computergeek)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2013, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/164 "2013-01-26T21:40:08Z")

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Agassi was shocked that Armstrong came clean and admitted to cheating but what shocked me is that he came clean at all, given his years of forceful denials and going after people for telling the truth. Yet, he won’t come completely clean for the later years where he can face legal charges. Still wants to control things.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/165 "2013-01-27T22:35:54Z")

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> [@computergeek](#):
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> Agassi was shocked that Armstrong came clean and admitted to cheating but what shocked me is that he came clean at all, given his years of forceful denials and going after people for telling the truth. Yet, he won’t come completely clean for the later years where he can face legal charges. Still wants to control things.

Exactly. With overwhelming evidence against him, he had no other choice. But he still wants something _for him_. He still doesn’t understand why he is not a world beloved figure – after all, he was playing in a ‘level field.’

Ego, thy name is Lance.

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/166 "2013-01-28T10:30:44Z")

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And now for some gratuitous fun at Lance’s expense:

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIT0KCINqko)

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/167 "2013-01-28T15:39:20Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> And now for some gratuitous fun at Lance’s expense:
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> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIT0KCINqko&feature=player\_embedded](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIT0KCINqko&feature=player_embedded)

whomever edited that is an example of falling out of the genius tree and hitting every branch!

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/168 "2013-02-20T21:17:38Z")

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Armstrong now says he won’t cooperate with the USADA investigation: [http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/20/us/armstrong-investigation/index.html?hpt=hp\_t2](http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/20/us/armstrong-investigation/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)

Jerk.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lance-armstrong-about-to-admit-he-cheated/646159/169 "2013-02-22T21:43:44Z")

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Uncle Sam is weighing in, heheheheheh: [Lance Armstrong Whistleblower Lawsuit To Be Joined By Department Of Justice: REPORTS | HuffPost Sports](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/22/lance-armstrong-whistleblower-doj-lawsuit_n_2742222.html)

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