# Is lekatt a troll, or is he just that stupid?

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 7, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518 "2008-03-07T21:56:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/21 "2008-03-07T23:25:59Z")

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[QUOTE=kaylasdad99]  
Maybe **lekatt** is stupid and Seth is a troll.  
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That could be a cool post-New Age bestseller for the Info Age: **SETH TROLLS!** , the story of a web surfer who channels through blogs a particularly obnoxious spiritual entity.

And it actually raises a point I always wondered about channeling: even _if_ they are conducting a spirit, how do we know that Seth or Ramtha or Chief Elk or whoever isn’t just a trolling horse’s ass from another dimension? There’s really not a peer review process for these guys; he could well be talking to the living one because their fellow dead head grab their car keys and run whenever he comes near.

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**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/22 "2008-03-07T23:27:36Z")

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[QUOTE=Sampiro]  
…I suspect led to the invention of [an American fun snack](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/40/JiffyPop.jpg) centuries later.  
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That is just so wrong.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/23 "2008-03-07T23:29:56Z")

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Word. It was wrong the first time, too.

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/24 "2008-03-07T23:32:16Z")

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**lekatt** is the worst thing to happen to Great Debates. It’s like trying to argue with a recording. He is the reason I don’t get involved anymore. He has wrecked dozens of threads with his idiotic drivel.

I think that what he does is not proselytizing, it’s deliberate thread shitting, and I would applaud if he was banned.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/25 "2008-03-07T23:42:12Z")

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[QUOTE=kaylasdad99]  
Word. It was wrong the first time, too.  
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P.S. No offense, **Sampiro**. You’ll always be top shelf in the SDMB storytelling pantheon. Your gift for imagery just got me really squicked out when you related the Bloody Mary story that first time.

I guess one way to spin it is that you’ve got mad Gothic skillz, too! 😃

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/26 "2008-03-07T23:46:15Z")

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[QUOTE=cmyk]  
From what I’ve seen from **lekatt** and his postings around here, he seems to have suffered, or gone through, some life altering event, and distorting his philosophy on the afterlife so much so, that he seems to be building some crazy Jenga tower of delusions to try and shadow the fear he has of death, and the transition leading up to it.  
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The pathetic truth is, he has never been near death. [He had a dream about a near death experience.](http://aleroy.com/Ndee.htm) That is the sole root of his bizarre religion.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/27 "2008-03-07T23:50:03Z")

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I have argued before that **Lekatt** should be banned for willful ignorance. Our mission is to fight ignorance. His mission is to remain ignorant and spread ignorance.

**Cmyk** IMO He suffered only from a midlife crisis. He had given his life to printing, an industry that was rapidly becoming unrecognizable due to new technologies. He was looking at a wasted life. Then, he had a dream. He seized on this dream as proof not only that life continues after bodily death, but proof that his life could have meaning. He devoted his life to spreading the word. He can’t admit error now. That would mean admitting that his crusade has been a waste. So he ignores evidence and blinds himself to the truth in order to cling to his beliefs.

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2008, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/28 "2008-03-07T23:55:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Fear Itself]  
The pathetic truth is, he has never been near death. [He had a dream about a near death experience.](http://aleroy.com/Ndee.htm) That is the sole root of his bizarre religion.  
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Ugh.

Maybe he thinks after enough posts in GD, the universe itself will have caved to his persistence out of sheer annoyance, and will grant him life-after-death.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/29 "2008-03-08T00:02:03Z")

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[QUOTE=Fear Itself]  
The pathetic truth is, he has never been near death. [He had a dream about a near death experience.](http://aleroy.com/Ndee.htm) That is the sole root of his bizarre religion.  
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Christ, _I’ve_ had more near-death experiences than he has! (Do you know how many times I narrowly missed being hit by a car-my friends and I used to play chicken on the main drag when we were about twelve.)

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**Author:** ![Charger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df788c/32.png) [@Charger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Charger)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/30 "2008-03-08T00:03:12Z")

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[QUOTE=Guinastasia]  
So **lekatt** is Lennon/McCartney?

_All you need is love…_  
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All you need is love? Love? Love is all you need?

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/31 "2008-03-08T00:10:39Z")

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[QUOTE=kaylasdad99]  
Maybe **lekatt** is stupid and Seth is a troll.  
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Who the hell is “Seth”, anyways? **lekatt** keeps talking about him, but the only Seth I can think of is my neurologist.  
Another question: Does **lekatt** ever post about anything else-movie threads, or other subjects? Or is he only here to preach?

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/32 "2008-03-08T00:16:42Z")

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[QUOTE=Captain Amazing]  
But, as to your more general point, yeah, being burned at the stake hurts, and **lekatt** ’s views tend not to be supported by evidence.  
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Even his own evidence. The soul _knows_ the body is _going to die_ and leaves? And he supports that by citing _near death_ experiences? What, are those souls stupid?

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/33 "2008-03-08T00:27:43Z")

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Re Seth

Seth is reportedly an angelic being composed of millions of souls. A channeler contacted Seth (I forget if it was in the sixties or seventies), and Seth dictated a few books.

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**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/34 "2008-03-08T00:31:25Z")

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lekatt is an internet legend. He has been posting his view for a long time in many forums.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/35 "2008-03-08T00:33:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Contrapuntal]  
Even his own evidence. The soul _knows_ the body is _going to die_ and leaves? And he supports that by citing _near death_ experiences? What, are those souls stupid?  
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Well, see, souls tend to be panicky. The body starts to die, the soul says, “That’s it, I’m outta here!”, and then the body gets better and the soul sneaks back redfaced and saying, “Yeah, I just left to go get a beer. I was coming back all the time.” That’s my theory, anyway.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/36 "2008-03-08T00:36:24Z")

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[QUOTE=DocCathode]  
Re Seth

Seth is reportedly an angelic being composed of millions of souls. A channeler contacted Seth (I forget if it was in the sixties or seventies), and Seth dictated a few books.  
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Seth=George Lucas?

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/37 "2008-03-08T00:39:46Z")

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If we are paying for the privledge of being on this board (and admittedly, I’m a noob here), not only should it run better than the free messageboards that I am a poster at (it doesn’t, possibly due to needing another server…it hangs a lot for me at random times for no apparent reason), it should also include an “ignore” feature that is so common to other messageboards.  
I know that another poster quoting the ignored user in the thread will still show up, but it can be useful.  
/2 cents

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**Author:** ![cmyk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmyk/32/3353_2.png) [@cmyk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmyk)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/38 "2008-03-08T00:40:06Z")

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The “evidence” he points to only looks like brain degeneration to me, anyway. Take neuroanatomist [Jill Bolte Taylor’s](http://www.ethanzuckerman.com/blog/2008/02/27/jill-bolte-taylor-finds-an-amazing-lesson-in-a-terrible-experience/) experience as she suffered (if you can call it suffering by her account) a stroke to the left hemisphere of her brain at 37 years old. Feelings of oneness with the universe, seemingly outside your body, aware of your trillion or so constituent cells, seemingly fluid with your surroundings (read her book, very interesting).

No one can say conclusively whether there’s life after death, but if you take an honest assessment of all the information we have on the topic, it’s not looking good. The only thing we have to compare it to is what it was like before we were born, and if being dead is anything like that, well, the only thing we might have to fear is the transition.

I guess denial is much stronger than acceptance for some of us.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/39 "2008-03-08T00:43:19Z")

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[QUOTE=cmyk]  
**Feelings of oneness with the universe, seemingly outside your body, aware of your trillion or so constituent cells, seemingly fluid with your surroundings (read her book, very interesting).**

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That really doesn’t sound bad at all. I suppose it’s all good to be that way as long as you don’t post on an internet messageboard with seeming authority, especially in a portion of one reserved for “debates of import” like GD is.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/40 "2008-03-08T00:47:30Z")

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[QUOTE=Maureen]  
**lekatt’s** a he? Color me educated.

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**lekatt** is more of a _what_.

Still, let him stay. As long as **lekatt** is here, no one may truly say that I am the most annoying git on the SDMB. 😃

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