# Is lekatt a troll, or is he just that stupid? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 7, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518 "2008-03-07T21:56:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/81 "2008-03-08T15:30:07Z")
“When it comes to atoms, language can be used only as in poetry. The poet, too, is not nearly so concerned with describing facts as with creating images.” Niels Bohr ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/82 "2008-03-08T15:48:47Z")
He does fill a useful purpose here. He helps the rest of us feel sane and normal. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/83 "2008-03-08T15:58:17Z")
[QUOTE=gazpacho] lekatt is an internet legend. He has been posting his view for a long time in many forums. [/QUOTE] Myabe the internet is Lekatt’s vehicle of immortality. The spirit resides in the tubes, the thoughts are always available on the pages. ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/84 "2008-03-08T16:01:45Z")
[QUOTE=Priceguy] Actually, I find that he has a very high consistency for someone that crazy. He’s had a slipup or two (I remember asking him in thread after thread to explain why he had both said that there’d be a judgment and that there wouldn’t be a judgment - he eventually responded, doing a retcon/handwave), but in all, I think he stays on message. [/QUOTE] I don’t know, his latest stuff that was quoted in the OP goes above and beyond. I haven’t heard him talk about love particles before. I think this set of posts has pushed him off into uncharted territory. ---
**Author:** ![Ensign\_Edison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ab992/32.png) [@Ensign\_Edison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ensign_Edison)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/85 "2008-03-08T16:02:52Z")
Those of us named Seth would ask that you people be less disorienting before we’ve had our caffeine. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/86 "2008-03-08T16:23:52Z")
[QUOTE=hotflungwok] I don’t know, his latest stuff that was quoted in the OP goes above and beyond. I haven’t heard him talk about love particles before. I think this set of posts has pushed him off into uncharted territory. [/QUOTE] Love particles? Oh yeah, I’ve heard of it – it’s usually called jizz. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/87 "2008-03-08T16:24:04Z")
[QUOTE=Frank] We’d prefer that people not discuss who is on their ignore list, primarily to avoid its use as a weapon in discussions. [/QUOTE] Ah. I got it. And thanks to the poster that pointed out where I needed to go if I ever need to use that feature. ---
**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/88 "2008-03-08T16:24:45Z")
[QUOTE=Czarcasm] Here is one of his latest pearls of wisdom: [QUOTE=lekatt] The building block of the universe is a thousands times smaller than any particle discovered by science. I will call it a unit. This unit is self-aware, and very curious about everything. It’s attracting force is love, and since it is self-aware (conscious) it can use thought. The sum total of units is God, hence God is love. In the absence of love everything falls apart. The whole of everything is consciousness, which uses thought to create form, it is like a hologram, each part contains the whole and the whole contains each part. The only thing that is real is consciousness. God, or the whole, constantly expands, creates, and looks for ways to define itself. We were created as “helpers” in this journey of discovery. So our universe is Love creating itself over and over in a multitude of forms and frequencies and densities. Whatever can be thought of can be created. [/QUOTE] [/QUOTE] I think reading the quoted text legally qualifies as use of psychotropic drugs. Do you have a prescription for that, **Czarcasm**? ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/89 "2008-03-08T16:30:03Z")
[QUOTE=Czarcasm] Here is one of his latest pearls of wisdom: [/QUOTE] Actually that sounds pretty nice. However, if this person spouts these types of platitudes in the GD arena, I can see why that would get annoying in the face of the rest of the members in a thread attempting to have a real-world grounded debate. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/90 "2008-03-08T17:40:36Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] You know, if he would just stop being an ASS, I don’t think people would get nearly so pissed at him. If that’s what he believes, hey, more power to him. But I’m tired of hearing that he has all the answers. If he volunteers at hospitals, does he just tell people in excruciating pain that it doesn’t matter, because they’ll be with God soon, and they’ll leave their pain behind, and forget it? [/QUOTE] Heh. “How would you rate your pain, on a scale of one to ten? Ten? That’s _excellent_ news! it means your soul knows you’re no going to die!” ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/91 "2008-03-08T18:12:17Z")
Seems to me the OP can be answered with a simple sylogism: The SDMB bans trolls **lekatt** has not been banned ergo, he is not a troll Which means, I guess, that he is stupid. Unless **Sophistry and Illusion** has presented us with a false dicotomy. (And with a username like that, one has to wonder. . . .) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/92 "2008-03-08T19:13:58Z")
I did a search for **lekatt** , and it seems he only ever posts in GD, and usually it’s about religion. Occasionally he’ll wander into another topic, but not often. Or he’ll post in a hypothetical situation, and ignore the requirements, and keep insisting it doesn’t matter. It’s pretty damned annoying. So I’d vote stupid and a one trick pony. And a smug, condescending asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/93 "2008-03-08T20:06:58Z")
I’d vote for pathological. Normally I cut a lot of slack for mentally ill people, but in Lekatt’s case, I just plain ran out of both patience and pity. In fact, I remember the day I finally Gave Up on Lekatt. It didn’t feel sad at all. It was more like when a scab finally falls off and there’s clean, healthy new skin underneath. Aaah. ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/94 "2008-03-08T23:23:20Z")
[QUOTE=BJMoose] Unless **Sophistry and Illusion** has presented us with a false dicotomy. (And with a username like that, one has to wonder. . . .) [/QUOTE] You weren’t supposed to catch on to my secret! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2008, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/95 "2008-03-08T23:28:12Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] You know, if he would just stop being an ASS, I don’t think people would get nearly so pissed at him. If that’s what he believes, hey, more power to him. But I’m tired of hearing that he has all the answers. [/QUOTE] That’s the whole thing. I’m an atheist, but I have had fruitful discussions with theists on this board (particularly **Liberal** ). But lekatt has that maddening combination of willful ignorance, resistance to evidence, arrogance, and smug condescension toward those who don’t ‘get’ it that absolutely drives me up a fucking wall. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2008, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/96 "2008-03-09T00:15:09Z")
He’s like listening to some pothead who thinks he’s said something profound. I have no earthly idea what he’s talking about, because it’s all purple prose, all style over substance. A truly open-minded person would not assume to have all the answers, and insist that he or she is right all the time, and that we’re the ones with a problem. And if what **DocCathode** says about his background is true, then that is truly sad. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2008, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/97 "2008-03-09T00:25:59Z")
[QUOTE=gazpacho] I found the link. He is an internet [legend](http://groups.google.com/group/talk.atheism/msg/7fd855065a28f2df?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&rnum=22) from way back. But he only gets 2 out of 6 stars. [/QUOTE] Heh – I like the list maker’s capsule review, which pretty much sums it up: “Leroy Kattein… Near-death experiences prove God; disagreement is illogical and insulting.” Good thing we don’t have any 3,4,5 or 6 star performers around here. Do we? ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2008, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/98 "2008-03-09T00:52:35Z")
[QUOTE=Musicat] Heh – I like the list maker’s capsule review, which pretty much sums it up: “Leroy Kattein… Near-death experiences prove God; disagreement is illogical and insulting.” Good thing we don’t have any 3,4,5 or 6 star performers around here. Do we? [/QUOTE] Well, we have in the past-what about **JDT**? To add on to what I said: doing a search on his name reveals that he has absolutely no other interests, no other hobbies or other wants than discussing NDEs. ---
**Author:** ![essell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/34f0e0/32.png) [@essell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/essell)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2008, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/99 "2008-03-09T01:09:48Z")
[QUOTE=Autolycus] I have fun imagining him as French. Le Katt. Hehe. [/QUOTE] Sounds Cardassian to me. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2008, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/100 "2008-03-09T23:39:22Z")
[QUOTE=Boyo Jim] Love particles? Oh yeah, I’ve heard of it – it’s usually called jizz. [/QUOTE] Love particles made by units. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518.md?page=6)