# Is lekatt a troll, or is he just that stupid?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 7, 2008, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518 "2008-03-07T21:56:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/121 "2008-03-19T20:17:57Z")

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[QUOTE=hotflungwok]  
I would have guessed that they were pulled from a different location.  
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Thin air? 😛

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2008, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/122 "2008-03-19T20:21:51Z")

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[QUOTE=hotflungwok]  
I would have guessed that they were pulled from a different location.  
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Where do you think his website comes from?

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**Author:** ![Anomalous\_Reading](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b3f665/32.png) [@Anomalous\_Reading](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Anomalous_Reading)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/123 "2008-03-20T02:48:42Z")

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So the cost of admission to a more educated set of people is a subscription fee. And anyone who pays that is free to post tripe as truth and be throughly disingenuous in their asinine arguments?

All we have left is making fun of the fool?

And you have to wonder, is humor, pity, or what the best response? Given the unflinching push of failed ideas, I’m beginning to lean toward humor, but dammit… I’d rather things change.

I suppose that would be a failed economic model, thought?

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**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/124 "2008-03-20T11:44:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Anomalous Reading]  
So the cost of admission to a more educated set of people is a subscription fee. And anyone who pays that is free to post tripe as truth and be throughly disingenuous in their asinine arguments?

All we have left is making fun of the fool?

And you have to wonder, is humor, pity, or what the best response? Given the unflinching push of failed ideas, I’m beginning to lean toward humor, but dammit… I’d rather things change.

I suppose that would be a failed economic model, thought?  
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I have decided, after months of beating my head against the wall of \*\*lekatt’s \*\* stupidity, just to ignore him. (By which I do not mean put him on my ignore list.) A couple of times I have hit ‘Reply to Post’, and then said, “No, I’m not going to go back into that hell,” like a recovering alcoholic might put a six-pack in his shopping cart and then put it back on the shelf. He’s too fucking stupid to argue with, so I just don’t reply to his asinine posts. I sometimes want to, but I realize that it won’t make any difference at all; it is a waste of time. So for example in the current GD debate on the self vs. the soul, where \*\*lekatt \*\* is dropping his nuggets of shit all over the place, I have decided just to let it go.

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/125 "2008-03-20T13:23:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Sophistry and Illusion]  
I have decided, after months of beating my head against the wall of \*\*lekatt’s \*\* stupidity, just to ignore him. (By which I do not mean put him on my ignore list.) A couple of times I have hit ‘Reply to Post’, and then said, “No, I’m not going to go back into that hell,” like a recovering alcoholic might put a six-pack in his shopping cart and then put it back on the shelf. He’s too fucking stupid to argue with, so I just don’t reply to his asinine posts. I sometimes want to, but I realize that it won’t make any difference at all; it is a waste of time. So for example in the current GD debate on the self vs. the soul, where \*\*lekatt \*\* is dropping his nuggets of shit all over the place, I have decided just to let it go.  
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I really wish everyone did this. Just totally ignored him. Responding to him hasn’t done anything.

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/126 "2008-03-20T13:34:19Z")

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[QUOTE=hotflungwok]  
I really wish everyone did this. Just totally ignored him. Responding to him hasn’t done anything.  
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In fact, I think in his own mind he’s a martyr for truth and loves provoking a reaction.

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**Author:** ![counsel\_wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/65b543/32.png) [@counsel\_wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/counsel_wolf)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/127 "2008-03-20T15:37:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Guinastasia]  
Where do you think his website comes from?  
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I think we’d have to hire a proctologist with spelunking experience to find out. Add me to the list of people whose eyes glaze over once he descends upon a thread.

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**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/128 "2008-03-20T15:38:09Z")

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How is it okay to use **lekatt**'s real name? It’s not in his public profile.  
Sure you can dig and find it but I think it’s rather bush-league to put it in a post.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/129 "2008-03-20T15:44:42Z")

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[QUOTE=BwanaBob]  
How is it okay to use **lekatt**'s real name? It’s not in his public profile.  
Sure you can dig and find it but I think it’s rather bush-league to put it in a post.  
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It’s on his website, which is linked from his profile. That hardly qualifies as digging.

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**Author:** ![BwanaBob](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bwanabob/32/2985_2.png) [@BwanaBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BwanaBob)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/130 "2008-03-20T16:24:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Fear Itself]  
It’s on his website, which is linked from his profile. That hardly qualifies as digging.  
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I went to his site but didn’t see it - my mistake.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/131 "2008-03-20T17:46:46Z")

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[QUOTE=Mangetout]  
I don’t think he’s actually either. His pattern of reaction in debates is quite distinctive and consistent. Build up an argument until the chorus of disagreement becomes too loud, then play the martyr card, avoiding the necessity of answering any questions - then flounce out of the thread, promising never to return (often more than once per thread)  
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I still say we give 'im the Turing Test.

_“Tell me about your mother.”_

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**Author:** ![Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Sophistry\_and\_Illusion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sophistry_and_Illusion)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/132 "2008-03-20T20:38:08Z")

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[QUOTE=hotflungwok]  
I really wish everyone did this. Just totally ignored him. Responding to him hasn’t done anything.  
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But I think you have to learn the hard way. You think, “Nobody can possibly really be that stupid and obstinate. I’ll point out the glaring inconsistencies and falsehoods in what he is saying, and he will have to make some concessions. Anyone with an IQ in the double digits would realize what he is saying is ultimately untenable.” And then you find out all your assumptions about how stupid you can be and still respirate are all thrown out the window.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2008, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/133 "2008-03-20T23:18:16Z")

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[QUOTE=hotflungwok]  
I really wish everyone did this. Just totally ignored him. Responding to him hasn’t done anything.  
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But if everyone who knew he was full of shit did this, then in this message board he’d have an open field to propogate ignorance on! By our lack of rebuttal, we’d be endorsing him to everyone viewing the thread. And you _gotta_ know there’s some people lurking out there that would take a lack of rebuttal that way.

So, I could only utterly ignore **lekatt** ’s fecal spewage if each and every one of his posts was marked with a disclaimer like "This poster is batshit insane, and literally everything he posts is worthless informationally, informationally, and factually; a stopped clock is a better source of truth.

However, as I doubt he’s going to make that his signature, I’ll keep on rebutting him as I see fit. (Though only when I feel like it, and never to the point of frustration.)

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/134 "2008-03-21T11:33:12Z")

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Maybe he needs his own forum?

**Mundane Pointless Blathering That Nobody Understands That I Must Share**

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2008, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/135 "2008-04-28T10:53:56Z")

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I hate to bump this again, (Hope it’s not too old), but is he getting worse? I have the feeling he’s not long for this board. (A Near Banning Experience?)

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2008, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/136 "2008-04-28T11:02:21Z")

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[QUOTE=BJMoose]  
But if penises are outlawed, then only  
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They can have my penis when they pry it out of my cold, dead hand.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2008, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/137 "2008-04-28T12:57:56Z")

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[QUOTE=hotflungwok]  
Watching Zardoz while stoned invites permanent brain damage.  
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It’s probably safer than watching it sober, though…

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**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2008, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/138 "2008-04-28T13:36:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Steve MB]  
It’s probably safer than watching it sober, though…  
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That’s like saying juggling running chainsaws is safer than juggling hungry tigers.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/139 "2008-04-29T20:10:05Z")

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[QUOTE=Guinastasia]  
I hate to bump this again, (Hope it’s not too old), but is he getting worse?  
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I don’t think it’s that he’s getting worse. More posters are confronting him more frequently and directly, showing how just how messed up his mind has always been.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2008, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lekatt-a-troll-or-is-he-just-that-stupid/440518/140 "2008-04-29T20:13:50Z")

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[QUOTE=BMalion]  
Maybe he needs his own forum?

**Mundane Pointless Blathering That Nobody Understands That I Must Share**  
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Well I’m NOT moderating that one! A Forum just for **lekatt**? That’s like the Twilight Zone.

I think we can see by now that the OP’s question is unanswerable. It’s like a Great Debate of its own.

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