# Is Lost over for you? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 26, 2006, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963 "2006-10-26T11:22:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/81 "2006-10-28T15:03:08Z")
I think he was whacking some sort of little green vegetation balls (that’s the scientific name). ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/82 "2006-10-28T15:21:19Z")
[QUOTE=JohnT] Lost is a _mystery_, which the entire point for the audience is to gather clues and see if they can figure it out. [/QUOTE] I don’t think it’s a mystery anymore. It’s a series of mysterious events. One has a reason and a resolution and can be tricky to write. The other anyone can come up with, as long as they’re not going to have to go through the trouble of coming up with a logical explanation. I haven’t given up yet because the wife and I have nothing better to do on Wedsnesdays. But if we miss it? Eh. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/83 "2006-10-28T15:47:23Z")
[QUOTE=Sam Stone] I saw the preview for next week, and I could swear that they were showing a scene of someone watching a hatch monitor and a ‘grey’ alien head appeared on the screen for a second. Did anyone else see that? [/QUOTE] Sam, that episode airs the day after Halloween. I wouldn’t be to thrilled. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/84 "2006-10-28T16:06:35Z")
> [@](#): > > For example, it’s been set up that the plane crashed due to the system failure when Desmond didn’t enter the numbers. That is the simplest and most clearly and explicitly indicated answer. Thinking it might not be the whole story? Thinking that explanation might just be a ruse set up to trick us into thinking that’s the case? OK fine, but you could say that about any explanation and I can’t see how you’d be satisfied with any answer. Saying the plane crashed because a Scottish guy living in an underground bunker didn’t type the right numbers into his computer is not an explanation. Unless you feel that plane crashes are the obvious result of that action. All the writers did was replace “why did the plane crash?” with “why did Desmond not entering the numbers make the plane crash?” And we still don’t know why. ---
**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/85 "2006-10-28T16:48:01Z")
[QUOTE=Little Nemo] All the writers did was replace “why did the plane crash?” with “why did Desmond not entering the numbers make the plane crash?” And we still don’t know why. [/QUOTE] Yes. Information is different than answers. People will say “You all wanted to know what the hatch was, and we knew right away in season 2!” - we learned more about it, definitely, but did we really get an answer? Okay, secret [something] base designed to [something] to [some phoenomina]. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Octagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@The\_Octagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Octagon)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/86 "2006-10-28T20:10:00Z")
> [@](#): > > I have a heard time believing this was Abram’s vision. Don’t deify him, he just had a good idea for a tv show. The writers are flying by the seat of their pants, they don’t have the ‘answers.’ New mysteries arrive as the old ones were solved, but yeah, the first few eps of this season were pretty bad. The Locke one, I thought, was much better. It was interesting and exciting, if it revealed no answers to big secrets. They should just cut Jack et al loose, spend more time with Locke Hurley and Eko and get it over with. As far as I’m concerned, Jack’s history is dull as hell and Kate and Sawyer have nothing interesting to hide any more. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/87 "2006-10-28T21:35:50Z")
I’m almost done. My wife and I rented the first season on DVD a little while before season 2 started and we loved it. Starting with season 2, though, I began to get tired of not getting any answers, and episodes that did not advance the plot at all. I started telling my wife early in season 2 that the creators had no idea where this was going and they were making it up as they went along, and I’ve seen nothing so far to shake me from that belief. They’ve clusterfucked the plot so badly that I don’t see any possible way that we’ll ever get answers to dozens of the show’s mysteries. There’ve been so many mysteries that, even though I’ve seen every single episode of the show, I don’t remember a lot of them. I don’t remember a statue with 4 toes. I don’t remember any black and white rocks. I don’t remember why Locke’s paralysis should be significant. I don’t remember Jack’s dad not being in his coffin. The fact that they’ve let these go for so long that Joe Viewer is forgetting about them tells me that they have no intention of ever explaining them. To do so they’d have to re-explain why they are significant. There are lots of frustrations about the show outside of the unsolved mysteries, too. -The characters are annoyingly studpid and incurious. -I know they don’t want this to be a “surviving on an island” show but please stop making it look like this island is owned and operated by the Hilton. Abundance of food and fresh water, perfect weather all the time, everyone stays pretty clean and shaven, and they all have nice clothes. Nothing is wanted for and none of the conveniences of home are lacking. -Show someone shave or get a haircut or something. Just show it in the background if you don’t want to write a scene around it, it would take 5 seconds. I read somewhere when the show first came out that it wasn’t a dream or a manipulation or a delusion, etc., and there was a logical, rational, scientific explantion for everything that would happen on the show. I do not see how that is possible at this point. I guess my biggest question right now is who are the Others and what is their motivation? If they don’t answer that very soon I’m done watching. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/88 "2006-10-28T21:47:31Z")
[QUOTE=Sam Stone] I agree with all the sentiments so far, but I think the show is actually about to take a really strange turn, so I’ll stick around for a few episodes to see what comes of that… Spoiler about next week’s show: I saw the preview for next week, and I could swear that they were showing a scene of someone watching a hatch monitor and a ‘grey’ alien head appeared on the screen for a second. Did anyone else see that? [/QUOTE] No, what you saw, and what has been spoilered already was a one eyed man wearing an eye patch who will be a new, recurring character. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/89 "2006-10-28T21:50:59Z")
I haven’t stopped watching Lost yet, but my enthusiasm for the show has waned to almost nothing. I record it on DVR and speed through the commercials, and don’t bother with the Lost message boards any more and I frankly hold no hope for a satisfactory answer to the questions raised or the mysteries introduced. Frankly, I think the writers don’t have any idea what the answers to the smoke monster or Walt’s appearances to Shannon or any of the other supernatural events are. They’re pulling it out of their ass and it’s starting to stink. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/90 "2006-10-28T21:57:04Z")
**Cisco** , they have showed people getting their hair cut. Claire cut Charlie’s hair at one point, and then Kate cut Sawyer’s hair, I think. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/91 "2006-10-28T22:11:22Z")
I’m ont trying to win you back into the fold or anything, but… [QUOTE=Cisco] They’ve clusterfucked the plot so badly that I don’t see any possible way that we’ll ever get answers to dozens of the show’s mysteries. There’ve been so many mysteries that, even though I’ve seen every single episode of the show, I don’t remember a lot of them. I don’t remember a statue with 4 toes. I don’t remember any black and white rocks. I don’t remember why Locke’s paralysis should be significant. I don’t remember Jack’s dad not being in his coffin. The fact that they’ve let these go for so long that Joe Viewer is forgetting about them tells me that they have no intention of ever explaining them. To do so they’d have to re-explain why they are significant. [/quote] You don’t remember them, but you can write them down? > [@](#): > > There are lots of frustrations about the show outside of the unsolved mysteries, too. > > -The characters are annoyingly studpid and incurious. > -I know they don’t want this to be a “surviving on an island” show but please stop making it look like this island is owned and operated by the Hilton. Abundance of food and fresh water, perfect weather all the time, everyone stays pretty clean and shaven, and they all have nice clothes. Nothing is wanted for and none of the conveniences of home are lacking. > -Show someone shave or get a haircut or something. Just show it in the background if you don’t want to write a scene around it, it would take 5 seconds. The characters are often stupid, yes. They’ve been eating Dharma food since the begining of season 2. And remember, it’s only been a few months of Island Time, and since they were all travelling, they have plenty of clothes-- plus the clothes of people who didn’t survive. They have shown people shaving and getting haircuts, btw. The island weather does turn nasty-- but only when The Island wants it to. I think that’s part of the mystery. Rain = bad thing is going to happen (usually). ---
**Author:** ![pudytat72](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@pudytat72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pudytat72)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/92 "2006-10-28T22:48:16Z")
I’m done with “Lost”. I could put up with the poor communication and macho posturing, but I cannot put up with the violence. Stopped watching in mid episode 2 weeks ago after they tasered Sawyer the second time. Don’t like to see meanness (experienced to much myself in times past). ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2006, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/93 "2006-10-29T00:11:44Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] You don’t remember them, but you can write them down? [/QUOTE] I know it’s an increasingly unpopular thing to do at the SDMB, but I read the thread before posting. ---
**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2006, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/94 "2006-10-29T04:16:11Z")
For me, it’s been four episodes of watching stupid flashbacks and people suffer grevious bodily injury. If I wanted to watch people get tortured, I’d watch _24_. This season has been an utter crapfest. As it stands, the wife is going to stop watching if the next episode is bad. I’ll probably stick around one or two more. So there’s a new one-eyed character. I don’t give a rat’s ass. So Locke is going to go get the Others. I don’t give a rat’s ass. Like everyone else here, they need to stop launching out in new directions without any care to where the series has been. I don’t have time for this BS; I work 80 hours a week and I get only a few hours of private awake time that my wife and I spend together alone after the kids go to sleep. Those few hours are valuable and _Lost_ isn’t working hard enough for me to give it 35 minutes (we DVR is and zip through the commercials – last week, we did it in 35 minutes). ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2006, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/95 "2006-10-29T17:22:16Z")
[QUOTE=edwino] As it stands, the wife is going to stop watching if the next episode is bad. I’ll probably stick around one or two more. [/QUOTE] FYI, there are only 2 more episodes left and then a big break until Februray when the episodes start again (going straight thru til May). ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2006, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/96 "2006-10-29T17:53:35Z")
[QUOTE=John Mace] FYI, there are only 2 more episodes left and then a big break until Februray when the episodes start again (going straight thru til May). [/QUOTE] How many episodes will that put the season at? I feel like there has only been 4 or 5 episodes so far. Shouldn’t a season be about 21 or 22? ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2006, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/97 "2006-10-29T18:00:02Z")
There will be 6 episodes before the hiatus, and 17 after, for a grand total of 23. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2006, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/98 "2006-10-29T18:20:22Z")
[QUOTE=MsWhatsit] There will be 6 episodes before the hiatus, and 17 after, for a grand total of 23. [/QUOTE] So the week after next should be a season finale-type cliffhanger. If it’s half-assedly resolved when they come back from the break that will probably be the end of Lost for me. I wonder why they’re doing such a long split? ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2006, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/99 "2006-10-29T18:24:34Z")
I believe it was to address the complaints of viewers from previous seasons that there were too many repeats and weeks off and it made it hard to develop any momentum. So this year they’re doing 6 straight, a huge gigantic hiatus, and then 17 straight, with no breaks or repeats during that time. It’s an interesting strategy, and lets them do a mini-cliffhanger halfway through the season. I’m still not sure whether I’m fully on board, but I admit it is nice to be able to tune in every week and see a new episode, rather than a repeat that I just saw two weeks ago, or whatever. I believe also that the 6th episode (i.e. the last one before the mini-break) is indeed supposed to be a big cliffhanger with some kind of big revelations. I personally am not holding my breath, but you never know, we could all be pleasantly surprised. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2006, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963/100 "2006-10-29T19:43:50Z")
[QUOTE=edwino] So there’s a new one-eyed character. I don’t give a rat’s ass. So Locke is going to go get the Others. I don’t give a rat’s ass. Like everyone else here, they need to stop launching out in new directions without any care to where the series has been. [/QUOTE] What, you don’t think that sending small party of Losties after the Others will work? Just because it hasn’t worked the last three or four times doesnt mean it won’t work this time! I’m sure this one will be an unqualified success. Oh, and I don’t care enough to find the full regular Lost thread - but learning about the second island shows us why Benry was so concered about them having a sailboat. -Joe [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lost-over-for-you/377963.md?page=6)