# Is Lou Dobbs actually retarded? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 19, 2008, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lou-dobbs-actually-retarded/438185 "2008-02-19T00:12:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2008, 6:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lou-dobbs-actually-retarded/438185/41 "2008-02-19T06:05:47Z")
[QUOTE=kaylasdad99] I heard on _All Things Considered_ this evening, that Obama says (now) he should have attributed the line to Patrick. Good on him. [/QUOTE] Excellent. Good for him. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2008, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lou-dobbs-actually-retarded/438185/42 "2008-02-19T06:54:03Z")
Now if he’ll just admit that he lifted whole tracts from _Mein Kampf_ and _The Prince_ for _Dreams From My Father_ and _Audacity of Hope_ we can all go home. ---
**Author:** ![Ocean\_Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8797f3/32.png) [@Ocean\_Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ocean_Annie)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2008, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lou-dobbs-actually-retarded/438185/43 "2008-02-19T06:56:29Z")
Obama wrote the brilliant 2004 key note address delivered at the DNC. In the speech, Obama quotes _The Declaration of Independence_ before Deval L. Patrick ever gave his speech using the same words. Obama doesn’t need to plagiarize. He quoted famous speeches from history, maybe in the style of Patrick, but hardly plagiarism. How can you plagiarize _The Declaration of Independence_ or _I have a Dream_? Patrick and Obama have the same campaign manager, so this is clearly an issue that needs to be addressed within Obama’s campaign. [2004 Speech](http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2004/demconvention/speeches/obama.html) Oh, and Lou Dobbs is a blow hard whose show has placed CNN on par with Fox News. The journalistic bar has been lowered to pure commentary, or rather, punditry. Sigh ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2008, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lou-dobbs-actually-retarded/438185/44 "2008-02-19T07:09:31Z")
[QUOTE=unconventional] Obama wrote the brilliant 2004 key note address delivered at the DNC. [/QUOTE] He wrote a bestselling memoir without a ghost-writer more than a decade ago. (At least he wrote it without a credited one, and since at the time he wrote it he wasn’t famous and even famous people credit their co-writer [like John McCain did] so it’s doubtful he’d have had enough clout not for a ghost writer not to want credit). Ministers and priests _routinely_ swap sermons. It’s not an under-the-table thing or a secret thing at all, they swap them on the Internet; most will put their own spin on it, it’s more for inspiration than for flat out re-hash ideally, but nothing is thought of it. It’s understood that when you have to write a sermon every Sunday sometimes it helps to get inspiration from others. ---
**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2008, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lou-dobbs-actually-retarded/438185/45 "2008-02-19T13:53:57Z")
[QUOTE=kevja] Obama supports have it easy now. Anything that comes up that they don’t like, they can always say, well Hillary is a desperate bitch , i hate her! I hate her! i hate her! [/QUOTE] Oh, bullshit. You’re just subscribing to the same type of [argument culture](http://www.amazon.com/Argument-Culture-Stopping-Americas-Words/dp/0345407512/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1203428865&sr=8-1) that keeps us from any kind of reasoned debate. I’m an Obama supporter. I was a Hillary supporter. Over the course of the campaigns, I decided that Obama was the candidate that I preferred. So I voted for him in the primary, and I sincerely hope he wins the nomination. If Hillary were to win the nomination, I’d gladly vote for her in November. You know what–for the first time in a LONG time, I actually voted FOR someone in an election rather than AGAINST someone. I wasn’t voting for “the lesser of two evils.” I was voting for the better of two good candidates. And that felt great. Really great. So fuck you and your ilk for trying to rain on my parade. Go Obama (or Clinton) in '08!!! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-lou-dobbs-actually-retarded/438185.md?page=2)