mea culpa, Chief Crunch. I try to avoid their stuff. They have been known to show up at our events and sort of lay claim to the movement as if we were all in agreement with them about how wonderful an alternative Scientology was.
:rolleyes:
Guess I missed that one.
Well, you certainly like Latin. 
For the most part, I agree with you. I’ve been to the Behavioral Health Unit of a local hospital several times. While I was always there voluntarily, I’ve the had the chance to interact with people who were not. Some of them simply said the wrong thing to the wrong person. I can’t speak for other states or areas, but in Pennsylvania, a person commited involuntarily has a right to a “hearing” with 120 hours. The hearing consists of the head psychiatrist, case worker, patient, public defender and a local magistrate. In the six or seven times I’ve been in there I’ve never seen a patient win one of these. All the psychiatrist needs to utter are “homicidal”, “suicidal” or “danger to himself or others”. Keep in mind, not taking meds is non-compliance, which in turn makes one a danger to himself. Usually; however, the end result of this is the person staying another five to seven days before he or she is discharged. I only recall one time when a person was moved to a more long term facility. Still, the shift of power needs to change. I met a girl who was there based on a police report filed by an ex-boyfriend. He said she was suicidal, she has a seven or eight thousand dollar hospital bill to deal with and ten days of her life taken away from her. Don’t get me wrong, psychiatric medication and counseling have improved unbearable areas of my life, but it was always my choice. More work needs to be done to ensure the rights of consumers.
But Tony couldn’t fly, Tony Died.