# Is McCain forked yet?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 25, 2008, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604 "2008-05-25T23:58:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1061 "2008-10-07T18:25:32Z")

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> [@Tabithina](#):
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> Thanks! I’ll stay put, though…needed here. 🙂
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> It feels like we are going to pull this off, but it will be a squeaker. I am an extremely, _extremely_ shy person and never thought I could do something like this. I never have until now. I am meeting lots of folks who have never volunteered before, of all ages and from many different walks of life. I hope you can find more door-knockers. Even if they can only do a little bit, it helps. Sometimes my hubby can only turn in a few pages at a time because of his crazy work schedule. But the quantity over time adds up.

It’s people like you who make me proud to be an American. I would say that even if you were out there, fighting your shyness to knock on doors for McCain. It’s your attitude and commitment that impresses me. Thank you for doing all you do.

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**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1062 "2008-10-07T18:30:46Z")

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> [@Tabithina](#):
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> Thanks! I’ll stay put, though…needed here. 🙂
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> It feels like we are going to pull this off, but it will be a squeaker. I am an extremely, _extremely_ shy person and never thought I could do something like this. I never have until now. I am meeting lots of folks who have never volunteered before, of all ages and from many different walks of life. I hope you can find more door-knockers. Even if they can only do a little bit, it helps. Sometimes my hubby can only turn in a few pages at a time because of his crazy work schedule. But the quantity over time adds up.

I already have a small army, I’m just greedy and want more, that’s all. Actually, I’m about to head out and knock some doors as soon as I hit “Submit Reply”.

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**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1063 "2008-10-07T18:37:01Z")

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Indeed! Here’s to **Tabithina**!!

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1064 "2008-10-07T18:42:07Z")

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> [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](#):
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> I love you. Move to Michigan. Bring hubby. We need more door knockers.

No, no. Stay in MO. McCain has already bailed on MI.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1065 "2008-10-07T18:43:06Z")

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> [@choie](#):
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> Holy cow. Missouri and Colorado went from barely GOP to barely Dem, and Ohio, VA and Florida all went from barely Dem to weak Dem.
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> It can all change in an instant, of course. But I’m liking this map. I’m liking this map a _lot_.

And they’re counting Michigan as weak Dem. Clearly McCain doesn’t think so.

Did you see the Senate numbers? 58 - 42 Dems.

It’s a bit frustrating being in California (55 -39) - but at least we don’t get hit with a lot of crappy McCain ads.

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**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1066 "2008-10-07T18:45:50Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> And they’re counting Michigan as weak Dem. Clearly McCain doesn’t think so.
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> Did you see the Senate numbers? 58 - 42 Dems.
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> It’s a bit frustrating being in California (55 -39) - but at least we don’t get hit with a lot of crappy McCain ads.

Imagine being in Utah. Not only is it fruitless to knock on doors here, we’re _still_ subjected to McCain ads daily. Not a full on barrage, but they’re definitely noticeable and annoying.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1067 "2008-10-07T18:54:34Z")

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I’m in IL–I know nothing from either candidate. (actually it’s kinda nice…). 🙂

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1068 "2008-10-07T19:28:52Z")

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> [@pepperlandgirl](#):
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> Imagine being in Utah. Not only is it fruitless to knock on doors here, we’re _still_ subjected to McCain ads daily.

Is that overflow from another media market? If McCain is spending money in Utah, I’d be really, really worried about his planning.

In Illinois here and scheduled to go to IN in a couple weeks. Of course, NW Indiana is already pretty heavily canvassed so I’m not sure where they’ll send me. I assume the Obama Indiana Machine has its plans.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1069 "2008-10-07T19:31:14Z")

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> [@](#):
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> My wife and I are most likely going to send absantee ballots and drive to PA to help people get to the polls. What else can we do, we are in New England. I suppose we could go to New Hampshire, but I have a feeling because people are not telling them which way to vote this time[ala Obama polling ahead in primaries only to see a Hillary win] , that they will break Obama.

For what it’s worth, 538 is saying that New Hampshire currently has the highest return on investment: It’s not the closest race, but it is close to the national average, which matters more, and the relatively low population means that it’s easier to sway. Any given amount of effort (time, money, etc.) is likely to go three or four times further in NH than in PA.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1070 "2008-10-07T19:37:24Z")

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Addendum: I just checked 538 again. As of right now, they’re assigning a higher probability to Obama winning Texas (11%) than to McCain winning the whole thing (10.8%). I’m now officially very happy.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1071 "2008-10-07T19:37:54Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> I’m in IL–I know nothing from either candidate. (actually it’s kinda nice…). 🙂

Isn’t this the best election ever? I haven’t even seen ads from many local or state candidates, though I did send some money to Bill Foster. Don’t even live in his district. Just really REALLY dislike Jim Oberweis.

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**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1072 "2008-10-07T19:43:51Z")

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In Chitown we are getting what I believe is some bleedover intended for the NW Indiana markets. Which is actually kind of one of the reasons why McCain is forkworthy- he has to spend in big-ass markets like Chicago, which are largely in non-swing states, to defend pesudored states like Indiana. I bet it is happening in other places too.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1073 "2008-10-07T19:46:39Z")

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> [@dropzone](#):
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> Isn’t this the best election ever? I haven’t even seen ads from many local or state candidates, though I did send some money to Bill Foster. Don’t even live in his district. Just really REALLY dislike Jim Oberweis.

I don’t watch TV much, but it is nice. I cannot stand Jim Oberweis, either. There was a reason for my distaste that cropped up last election cycle, but I cannot remember what it was… And his milk service isn’t all that great, btw. Their skim milk is not truly skim, but I digress. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1074 "2008-10-07T19:48:54Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> I don’t watch TV much, but it is nice. I cannot stand Jim Oberweis, either. There was a reason for my distaste that cropped up last election cycle, but I cannot remember what it was…

Perhaps it was his anti-immigrant ad campaign, which was essentially “the evil brown people are sneaking into this country and destroying the American way of life”?

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1075 "2008-10-07T19:51:48Z")

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My boss was working for Obama in Indiana over the weekend, registering voters. He had all sorts of young black men come up to him and beg for help registering to vote, saying that “it’s not cool anymore not to be registered!” I hope that sense of engagement sticks, no matter what happens with the election.

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**Author:** ![Algernon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a183cd/32.png) [@Algernon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algernon)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1076 "2008-10-07T19:51:58Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> I’m in IL–I know nothing from either candidate. (actually it’s kinda nice…). 🙂

I’m jealous. I hate being in a swing state. The nonstop advertising is driving me crazy. I switch channels now when an ad comes on, from either party.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1077 "2008-10-07T19:55:46Z")

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> [@Eva\_Luna](#):
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> Perhaps it was his anti-immigrant ad campaign, which was essentially “the evil brown people are sneaking into this country and destroying the American way of life”?

Ah, yes… those same evil brown people whom I’m sure he employs, non-union, of course. Yes, I think that’s it.

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**Author:** ![Fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bc8723/32.png) [@Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1078 "2008-10-07T19:59:55Z")

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> [@Eva\_Luna](#):
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> My boss was working for Obama in Indiana over the weekend, registering voters. He had all sorts of young black men come up to him and beg for help registering to vote, saying that “it’s not cool anymore not to be registered!”

That is the _coolest thing_ I have heard this election, period.

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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1079 "2008-10-07T20:08:49Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> Ah, yes… those same evil brown people whom I’m sure he employs, non-union, of course. Yes, I think that’s it.

Oh yeah, I would almost pay for the privilege of doing an I-9 audit of his company.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-mccain-forked-yet/450604/1080 "2008-10-07T20:20:51Z")

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This is all very heartening - reminds me of our first democratic elections, '94 - grannies queueing to get registered for the first time…

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