# Is Melania Trump trolling everyone, is so why?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [October 11, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198 "2016-10-11T00:01:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/21 "2016-10-11T05:08:39Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> I had never heard it either.
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> I am amused that the [NY Post](http://nypost.com/2016/10/10/melania-trump-really-wore-a-pussy-bow-shirt-to-the-debate/) calls the blouse “pussy-bow,” while censoring Donald’s remark as “p\_\_\_y”.[CBS News](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/melania-trump-inadvertently-wears-pussy-bow-to-second-presidential-debate/) is similar, though it censors the latter as “p\*\*\*y”. [Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/10/10/melania-trump-says-her-p-y-bow-shirt-at-debate-was-unintentional.html) on the other hand censors even the name of the blouse as “p—y-bow.”

That’s just how we do it. The expletive gets censored, as it is the expletive which is offensive.

I think it makes more sense than to censor it every time. If you’re gonna censor, meaning should matter.

Fox seems the weird one in this situation. It would be like banning fuck in the Pit.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/22 "2016-10-11T05:36:39Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> That’s just how we do it.

You’re a news editor now? :dubious:

It’s really pretty ridiculous to censor it at all. The whole meaning of the article depends on the words being the same.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/23 "2016-10-11T12:27:49Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> I had never heard it either.
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> I am amused that the [NY Post](http://nypost.com/2016/10/10/melania-trump-really-wore-a-pussy-bow-shirt-to-the-debate/) calls the blouse “pussy-bow,” while censoring Donald’s remark as “p\_\_\_y”.[CBS News](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/melania-trump-inadvertently-wears-pussy-bow-to-second-presidential-debate/) is similar, though it censors the latter as “p\*\*\*y”. [Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2016/10/10/melania-trump-says-her-p-y-bow-shirt-at-debate-was-unintentional.html) on the other hand censors even the name of the blouse as “p—y-bow.”

I would love to have been at the meetings where news people and their editors sat around a conference table discussing “pussy”.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/24 "2016-10-11T13:23:50Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> You’re a news editor now? :dubious:
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> It’s really pretty ridiculous to censor it at all. The whole meaning of the article depends on the words being the same.

You know I didn’t say I was a newspaper editor. I know how American news works. Picking one word to shit on me over is just deliberately antagonizing me. I can’t report it, so please stop.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/25 "2016-10-11T15:30:35Z")

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I have a theory that all these theories that certain people are secretly a lot smarter than they appear are appearing from certain people who think they’re a lot smarter than they are.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/26 "2016-10-11T22:57:11Z")

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Too lazy to search, but I remember some time ago reading that when Trump meets with his lawyers and financial advisors that Melania does most of the talking.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/27 "2016-10-11T22:59:33Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I have a theory that all these theories that certain people are secretly a lot smarter than they appear are appearing from certain people who think they’re a lot smarter than they are.

Us smart people can spot each other, its awesome. We will send you a post card sometime.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2016, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/28 "2016-10-11T23:34:26Z")

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I’d say that if the result of him failing to make it into the Oval Office is that she leaves him and has a messy divorce accusing him of abusing and raping her, and the media attention on that into a line of Melania Perfume and whatnot, turning herself into a trademark, then it would be a pretty good indication that she’s a smart one. If she stays with him, then she’s probably not all that (after his failed Presidential bid would be a good time to use all of the attention she’d get to protect herself against any threats he might throw her way - and she’s got to know she has a shelf life, so it’s better to get out while the chips are on her side). If she uses it to become a news commentator, then she’s probably just average.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/29 "2016-10-12T00:46:50Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> It’s really pretty ridiculous to censor it at all. The whole meaning of the article depends on the words being the same.

[“I can’t believe we had to bleep that out.”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP4f1seE6wY)

Stranger

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/30 "2016-10-12T04:02:41Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> You know I didn’t say I was a newspaper editor. I know how American news works.

Your use of the word “we” implied you were somehow involved in editing news reports. It would have been better to say “that’s how they do it.”

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> Picking one word to shit on me over is just deliberately antagonizing me. I can’t report it, so please stop.

You can’t ask people not to comment on your posts. If you want to accuse me of shitting on you or deliberately antagonizing you, the place to do that is the Pit (and you’re allowed to for things I say as a poster.)

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/31 "2016-10-12T14:18:57Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> Us smart people can spot each other, its awesome. We will send you a post card sometime.

It’s “we smart people,” “it’s,” and you employed a comma splice. I fear this shibboleth will be your undoing, pretender. _SEIZE HIM!_

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/32 "2016-10-12T17:39:51Z")

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I knew about the blouse because [we discussed it last year](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=749954) 🙂 (well me and 3 other people. And I promptly forgot it.)

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/33 "2016-10-12T18:02:36Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> I knew about the blouse because [we discussed it last year](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=749954) 🙂 (well me and 3 other people. And I promptly forgot it.)

So you’re implying that Melania is a Doper?

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/34 "2016-10-12T18:11:46Z")

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I thought the rickroll was both intentional and hilarious. The pussy bow seems more an act of defiance, but also done knowingly. I don’t think Melania spends her time drooling in a corner until they drag her out for campaign appearances. After the election, I hope she takes her well deserved payout and goes her merry way.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2016, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/35 "2016-10-12T20:24:03Z")

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when i first heard she wore this item of clothing i couldn’t imagine where the bow was. now i reckon it is based on twee pictures of actual kittens with fluffy bows around their necks.

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**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/36 "2016-10-14T04:43:11Z")

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Ok, I was skeptical at first, but now I think it’s official. She’s trolling everyone. She just threatened to sue People magazine over the article in which one of their reporters claims Donald once sexually assaulted her during an interview. But she’s not suing over that claim, or even disputing it. She’s threatening to sue them because the article implied that the reporter and Melania had once been friends. I’m beginning to think the entire Trump campaign was a plot to jump start Melania’s career as a surreal Kaufmanesque comic. I now expect the highlight of the final debate to be the moment when Trump peels of a mask to reveal Bob Zmuda.

ETA cite: [Melania Trump threatens to sue People — but not over Donald sex assault claims](http://nypost.com/2016/10/13/melania-trump-threatens-to-sue-people-but-not-over-donald-sex-assault-claims/)

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_Ace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6bbea6/32.png) [@Johnny\_Ace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Ace)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/37 "2016-10-14T05:00:50Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> She gave a speech that was partly plagiarized and had a rick-roll in it at the RNC convention.
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> Then she shows up for the 2nd debate wearing a pussy bow blouse a couple days after a tape is released where her husband says ‘grab her by the pussy’.
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> I’m starting to think Melania is way smarter than anyone realizes. Maybe she knows her husband is a delusional narcissist, she just puts up with it because he is rich, and she is subtly signaling at the absurdity of everything. I also wouldn’t be surprised if she actually takes the lead in their relationship, but plays on Donald’s ego to make him think he is the alpha male. Basically far from just being a trophy wife, she is far wiser than anyone expects and has a level of social competence far beyond her husband.

No, no, no. She’s a part of the great ‘international banking’ conspiracy.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/38 "2016-10-14T05:22:33Z")

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> [@rocking\_chair](#):
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> when i first heard she wore this item of clothing i couldn’t imagine where the bow was.

I could. I mean I was _wrong_…

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2016, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/39 "2016-10-14T07:54:16Z")

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I don’t think it is any coincidence that Melanie wore all bright pink, with a blouse that has a puffy bow that hangs down like a labia, called a pussy bow blouse.

She is in the fashion industry and knows the fashion people watch what the Trumps wear with a critical eye, and report which label it is and put price tags on it. So she would have known the fashion people that critique what they wear would get the joke.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [November 4, 2016, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melania-trump-trolling-everyone-is-so-why/768198/40 "2016-11-04T03:43:51Z")

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I’m bumping this thread to note that Melania’s speech today emphasized the toxic nature of cyber bullying, which is sort of her husband’s thing.

I would be greatly pleased if she divorced him in the midst of his rape trial. No public statement; just a wink as a team of lawyers surround her.

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