# Is Melania's I don't care jacket an off the shelf item? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [June 22, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594 "2018-06-22T21:50:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/1 "2018-06-22T21:50:47Z")
It’s described as a $39 Zara jacket. I’ve looked around and don’t see that jacket with that phrase for sale. Is it a off the shelf item? Did someone put that wording on the jacket afterwards? I see all sorts of catch phrases on clothing. Is “I Don’t care, do U?” a popular cultural catch phrase? Is it on a lot of clothing? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/2 "2018-06-22T21:58:44Z")
Link for those that haven’t seen any news recently. > **[Melania dons jacket saying 'I really don't care. Do U?' ahead of her border...](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/21/politics/melania-trump-jacket/index.html)** > > First lady Melania Trump took a trip to the US-Mexico border on Thursday to tour an immigrant children's shelter, but her trip is getting attention not only for her action, but also for her wardrobe choice before and after the journey. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/3 "2018-06-22T22:05:00Z")
I’m sure it was intentionally put on afterward. I’m not aware of any such catch-phrase, and I am certain Trump apologists would be pointing out other jackets with that phrase if they were mass produced for retail. Soooo classy, those two. Maybe this will make those who praise Melania as a beacon of elegance and grace in the White House will shut the fuck up now. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/4 "2018-06-22T22:22:34Z")
**Moderator Note** > [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > I’m sure it was intentionally put on afterward. I’m not aware of any such catch-phrase, and I am certain Trump apologists would be pointing out other jackets with that phrase if they were mass produced for retail. > > Soooo classy, those two. Maybe this will make those who praise Melania as a beacon of elegance and grace in the White House will shut the fuck up now. This is GQ, so save the political comments for a more appropriate forum, please. ---
**Author:** ![Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/marvin_the_martian/32/2898_2.png) [@Marvin\_the\_Martian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marvin_the_Martian)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/5 "2018-06-22T22:24:18Z")
If it’s not, I bet it will be soon. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/6 "2018-06-22T22:26:32Z")
No, it came with writing on it. My daughter has a friend who has the jacket. She’s mad now cause she won’t be able to wear it anymore.☹ ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/7 "2018-06-22T22:26:50Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > I’m sure it was intentionally put on afterward. I’m not aware of any such catch-phrase, and I am certain Trump apologists would be pointing out other jackets with that phrase if they were mass produced for retail. > > Soooo classy, those two. Maybe this will make those who praise Melania as a beacon of elegance and grace in the White House will shut the fuck up now. **Moderator Note** Political commentary of this kind is not permitted in this forum. No warning issued, but stick to factual information only.\* **Moderator Instructions** There are other threads where you can discuss Melania, her husband, and political issues. THIS THREAD SHOULD BE KEPT STRICTLY TO THE QUESTION IN THE OP. POLITICAL COMMENTARY AND PERSONAL REMARKS DIRECTED AT MELANIA OR HER HUSBAND WILL BE SUBJECT TO A WARNING. Colibri General Questions Moderator \*I see that **engineer** has already addressed this. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/8 "2018-06-22T22:26:57Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > I’m sure it was intentionally put on afterward. … I’m sure you’re wrong: > **[Melania Trump wears "I really don’t care, do u?" jacket on trip to migrant...](https://www.vox.com/2018/6/21/17489632/melania-trump-jacket-zara-i-really-dont-care-do-u)** > > Her spokesperson says the $39 Zara jacket had "no hidden message," but Trump tweeted otherwise. > ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/9 "2018-06-22T22:29:31Z")
Thank you, I searched and searched and only found news articles. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/10 "2018-06-22T23:27:57Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > **Moderator Note** > > Political commentary of this kind is not permitted in this forum. No warning issued, but stick to factual information only.\* > > **Moderator Instructions** > > There are other threads where you can discuss Melania, her husband, and political issues. THIS THREAD SHOULD BE KEPT STRICTLY TO THE QUESTION IN THE OP. POLITICAL COMMENTARY AND PERSONAL REMARKS DIRECTED AT MELANIA OR HER HUSBAND WILL BE SUBJECT TO A WARNING. > > Colibri > General Questions Moderator > > \*I see that **engineer** has already addressed this. How can you have a thread about Donald Trump or Melania and pretend it is not political? ---
**Author:** ![zombywoof](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/9e8a1a/32.png) [@zombywoof](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zombywoof)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/11 "2018-06-23T00:37:20Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Is it a off the shelf item? My understanding is that yes, it was an off-the-shelf item from Zara - but it’s not the same thing as off-the-shelf Levi’s jeans, they are a “fast fashion” brand, whose business model is built around designs selling out and changing very quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/12 "2018-06-23T00:38:28Z")
I took the OPs question to be about the jackets availability. ---
**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/13 "2018-06-23T00:50:42Z")
I think I read it was for sale in 2016. Some celebrities do mix high and popular fashion, but I don’t recall the First Lady doing so in the past. Proving nothing. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/14 "2018-06-23T00:50:58Z")
Yes, I wasn’t sure if this jacket was worn by a lot of women. Some catch phrases get repeated everywhere. They become part of pop culture. The lettering looked amateurish and I wondered if it was a DIY job. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/15 "2018-06-23T01:56:14Z")
> [@Dr\_Paprika](#): > > I think I read it was for sale in 2016. > > Some celebrities do mix high and popular fashion, but I don’t recall the First Lady doing so in the past. Proving nothing. The NY Times commentary said that it seemed to be the least expensive item of clothing she has worn as First Lady. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/16 "2018-06-23T02:13:32Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Yes, I wasn’t sure if this jacket was worn by a lot of women. Some catch phrases get repeated everywhere. They become part of pop culture. > > The lettering looked amateurish and I wondered if it was a DIY job. I think it was designed to look that way. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/17 "2018-06-23T02:13:43Z")
The end of June in Texas isn’t typically jacket weather. But, it is always windy on air strips. Melania may have wanted to protect her dress and keep it clean. ---
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/18 "2018-06-23T02:28:46Z")
> [@](#): > > A Portland clothing company is now selling a bomber jacket that reads, “I REALLY CARE, DON’T U?” The jacket was created in response to one Melania Trump wore Thursday that read, “I REALLY DON’T CARE, DO YOU?” ['I REALLY CARE, DON'T U?': Portland clothing company responds to Melania Trump | kgw.com](https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/i-really-care-dont-u-portland-clothing-company-responds-to-melania-trump/283-566710267) ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/19 "2018-06-23T02:55:16Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The end of June in Texas isn’t typically jacket weather. > > But, it is always windy on air strips. Melania may have wanted to protect her dress and keep it clean. According to the [vox.com](http://vox.com) article linked above, the coat was worn only in Maryland and not at all in Texas. > [@](#): > > Though the first lady arrived at Andrews Air Force base in Maryland wearing the jacket, by the time the plane landed in McAllen, Texas, she had changed into a far more innocuous cream colored jacket instead. > > In a rather brazen move, however, she changed back into the jacket upon landing back in Maryland later in the afternoon, despite the swift criticism and the fact that the temperature was 81 degrees. This time around, photographers were also given full view of the offending garment. That is from a news article, BTW. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-melanias-i-dont-care-jacket-an-off-the-shelf-item/816594/20 "2018-06-23T05:10:33Z")
> [@Biffster](#): > > How can you have a thread about Donald Trump or Melania and pretend it is not political? All the answers since my instructions have somehow managed it. Colibri General Questions Moderator