Is monarchy the best form of government?

[Scarf-Ace]

@Neurotik

@Scarf-Ace

Well with example 1, I was under the impression that Dubya got his brother to order a “recount”, because he had actually lost the election.

There were shenangigans but this wasn’t one of them. In a close election, either candidate has the right to call for a recount - it doesn’t require any special favors. Besides, it was actually Gore that requested the recount.

Thanks for clearing that up - its amazing how you can hold odd opinions like that.

[JohnM]

@Papermache Prince

BTW, it’s Lord Acton, the British peer of the Nineteenth Century, no relation to Captain Action, the plastic action figure of the 1960s.

It’s an amusing typo - and I’ve certainly made my share.

D’oh! I could say that it was a clever bit of intentional humor, but the truth is my fingers added the ‘i’ my brain knew didn’t belong.

[Bookkeeper]

@glee

Finally Monarchist Britain used to have a overseas colony, in a land brimming with promise. They very reasonably asked for seats in Parliament, given that they paid revenues to the Crown. (There was some catchy phrase, but it eludes me. )
Because King George III was a) mad and b) unelected and c) impossible to overrule, the colony duly gained its independence. (Can’t quite remember the details… )
Why on earth do you think Monarchy is better than democracy.

P.S. In CIV 3 PTW, Monarchy decreases corruption. But democracy does it even better!

I think Lord North, the Prime Minister from January, 1770 to March, 1782, had more to do with it than George.

Federal Republic is even better than Democracy in PTW (slight home town bias there, perhaps?)

[BrainGlutton]

Here’s a link to “The Purple Pages” – http://www.geocities.com/royalistparty/ – “Former Home of the Royalist Party of America.” Doesn’t say what happened to the party, but it has a lot of pages and links dealing with royalty and monarchism.

[Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor]

And, on the subject of royalty–
http://www.grudge-match.com/current.html

Give it your full attention, & vote!

[Bryan_Ekers]

@Scarf-Ace

Don’t forget you get +1 to food as well!

And your engineers work faster, as I recall.

[Muffin]

@Bosda Di'Chi of Tricor

Perhaps a Parlimentary system, with its mid-term “No Confidence” votes may work better than the US system?

Bingo! Give the Tricor a prize.

Some democracies have responsible government (e.g. Canada), and some don’t (e.g USA). The nice thing about a responsible government is that the government is continuously held responsible to the persons who have been elected. This prevents the deadlock that is frequently seen between the US President and the US Congress, and permits a greater voice to parties who do not form the government (particularly when there is a minority government).

I am of the opinion that the parlimentary system of responsible government in Canada could be tweaked if some elements of proportional representation by party were included so that partys with significant portions of the popular vote could have seats even if they did not win many or any particular ridings.

[Muffin]

When was the last time the British Monarch failed to assent to a bill? 1707? By the time of the Amerian Revolution, the British Monarchy was politically irrelevant. The people on the western side of the pond were being screwed over by Parliament.

[APB]

@msmith537

Monarchies, by definition are selected by blood relations…which is nothing like our current system…nothing like it at all

@Ravenman

If a leader is chosen by a TV program, it really isn’t a monarchy, is it? I mean, the bit about hereditary rights and all that seems to be missing.

@glee

There aren’t any elections in a Monarchy.

Er, ‘by definition’ a monarchy is rule by a single person. The method of selection is a separate issue. To reinforce BrainGlutton’s point, there have been real-life cases of elective monarchies; in fact, there have been real-life cases of elective kings. It is thus perfectly possible to have an elective monarchy in which the monarch (or ‘president’) is elected and is then limited to a defined term in office. The Founding Fathers, who knew their Aristotle, would have been the first to call the USA a monarchy had they not, precisely for that reason, balanced the ‘president’ with a legislature and a judiciary.

[Grey]

Actually it’s closest current model would be a board of directors and a company CEO.

[Muffin]

@APB

Er, ‘by definition’ a monarchy is rule by a single person.

Nope. A monarchy is a nation in which the head of state is the monarch, who is usually a single person.

A monarchy does not have to be ruled by a monarch. For example, Canada is a monarchy ruled by its own responsible Parliament. The monarch remains the head of state, but simply does what she is told to do, and in no way rules the country.

There have been instances of joint monarchs, such as Ferdinand V and Isabella I of Castile and León, and William III and Mary II of England. (Of interesting note is the to-do over Willaim and Mary led to the Settlement Act of 1707, which made was a major turning point in changing the British monarchy from a ruling monarchy into a monarchy that resopnsible to Parliament).

[Muffin]

@glee

. . . I live in a country with a Monarchy stretching back over centuries. . . .

. . . In a Monarchy, the people have precisely no say at all . . . .

. . . There aren’t any elections in a Monarchy. . . .

. . . You don’t have constitutional rights under a Monarchy. . . .

Huh? I thought that where you live, England, remains a monarchy, and that in its present form as a constitutional, responsible and democractic monarchy, the people have the say and the monarch has no say, there are elections, and there are constitutional rights.

If, in fact, England is no longer a monarcy, then would you kindly send over the Queen to us in Canada, for despite our having the say over our own afairs, and the monarch having no say at all, and our having elections, and our having constitutional rights, I can assure you that we indeed do have a monarchy, of which the Queen is the monarch. I am certain that we can find something for her to do over here.

[Muffin]

Can’t . . . sentence . . . write . . . scrambled . . . words . . . AURRRRGH!

[Bryan_Ekers]

@Muffin

If, in fact, England is no longer a monarcy, then would you kindly send over the Queen to us in Canada, for despite our having the say over our own afairs, and the monarch having no say at all, and our having elections, and our having constitutional rights, I can assure you that we indeed do have a monarchy, of which the Queen is the monarch. I am certain that we can find something for her to do over here.

Jeez, I don’t want her here. I’m hoping to see the Republic of Canada in my lifetime.

[Muffin]

But I was thinking we might be able to rent her out to small nations in need of a Queen.