# Is "Muldoon" texas slang, and what does it mean? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [July 21, 2008, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216 "2008-07-21T02:39:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![scrambledeggs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@scrambledeggs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scrambledeggs)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/1 "2008-07-21T02:39:24Z")
This military officer (now a major) back at the academy would call us ‘muldoons’ if he was being pejorative – but i couldn’t find its exact meaning or etymology on urban dictionary. He was from texas Can anyone from Texas or thereabouts confirm this usage, or was it just idiosyncratic? (He did NOT say ‘poltroons’ which of course means coward) ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/2 "2008-07-21T02:42:56Z")
[QUOTE=scrambledeggs] This military officer (now a major) back at the academy would call us ‘muldoons’ if he was being pejorative – but i couldn’t find its exact meaning or etymology on urban dictionary. [/QUOTE] What period of time would this be? ---
**Author:** ![snailboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/97f17d/32.png) [@snailboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snailboy)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/3 "2008-07-21T03:04:29Z")
Never heard of it. Was it maybe the name of a character from a tv show or something? ---
**Author:** ![WarmNPrickly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/d78d45/32.png) [@WarmNPrickly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WarmNPrickly)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/4 "2008-07-21T03:17:58Z")
It seems that muldoon is a town in Texas. > **[Muldoon, Texas, Fayette County.](http://www.texasescapes.com/TOWNS/MuldoonTexas/MuldoonTexas.htm)** > > Muldoon, Texas, Fayette County: history, travel, landmarks, vintage/contemporary photos, Muldoon blue stone quarry, vintage map & more. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_T](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Gary\_T](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_T)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/5 "2008-07-21T03:23:34Z")
Hmm. Reminds me of Bugs Bunny saying “What a maroon!” Wouldn’t surprise me if it’s something he just made up himself, perhaps subconsciously influenced by Bugs. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@Don\_t\_fight\_the\_hypothetical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_fight_the_hypothetical)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/6 "2008-07-21T06:08:01Z")
Grew up in Texas until I was 35, never heard it. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/7 "2008-07-21T06:22:28Z")
[QUOTE=Gary T] Hmm. Reminds me of Bugs Bunny saying “What a maroon!” [/QUOTE] I always interpreted that as meaning ‘moron’, but in a broadcast-safe way. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/8 "2008-07-21T06:35:01Z")
A posting on the [Linguist List](http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0203A&L=ads-l&F=P&P=809) indicates that _muldoon_ was at one time American slang for a policeman. > [@](#): > > What brought Matsell down, ironically in a town where the police have long been associated affectionately with the Irish community (not for nothing do the slang terms ‘shamus’, ‘shamrock’ and ‘muldoon’ all mean policeman), was the accusation that he allowed too many Irish immigrants to enter the force. BTW it’s a fascinating post, concerning an ex New York City Poilce Commissioner called George Washington Matsell, who turned lexicographer and published a glossary of thieves’ slang, _Vocabulum_, 1859. “Experience has taught me that any man engaged in police business cannot excel without understanding the rogues’ language.” He has a point. How the term wound up being used in Texas for a dolt I have no idea. ---
**Author:** ![Xema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/9de053/32.png) [@Xema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xema)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/9 "2008-07-21T14:34:40Z")
[QUOTE=snailboy] Was it maybe the name of a character from a tv show or something? [/QUOTE] An early sitcom called [Car 54, Where Are You](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_54,_Where_Are_You%3F) featured two bumbling cops named Toody and Muldoon. ---
**Author:** ![sweeteviljesus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@sweeteviljesus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sweeteviljesus)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/10 "2008-07-21T16:53:12Z")
In the book Wiseguy, Henry Hill claims that Paul Vario referred to stolen credit cards as muldoons and used to say, “Whiskey tastes best on a muldoon”. Also, I have lived in Texas my whole life and have never heard anyone call anyone a muldoon. FWIW, Rob ---
**Author:** ![DopeSince54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@DopeSince54](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DopeSince54)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/11 "2022-10-06T22:23:52Z")
Muldoon The Solid Man was a vaudeville sketch in the 1870s to 1890s. The character Muldoon was an Irish immigrant “ward heeler” (political boss in the Tammany Hall sense), and the musical sketch pokes affectionate fun at his pomposity. It was written by Harrigan and Hart, the Rodgers and Hammerstein of the day. Another of H&H’s hits was “The Mulligan Guard”, about a bumbling patriotic-immigrant society that marched on parade in NYC. The shows and their songs were know to Rudyard Kipling and James Joyce, and filtered “backward” into Irish folk music (that is, the tune was an authentic folk song, and many people today connect the song not with vaudeville but with Mick Moloney, the great folk singer who died this past July.) So I’m guessing that Scrambledeggs’ old officer may have been Irish and/or was referring to the vaudeville characters (some of whom were pseudo-military). Ain’tcha glad y’ast? ---
**Author:** ![md-2000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9d8465/32.png) [@md-2000](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/md-2000)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/12 "2022-10-06T23:18:22Z")
> [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > Hmm. Reminds me of Bugs Bunny saying “What a maroon!” > > I always interpreted that as meaning ‘moron’, but in a broadcast-safe way. Which was the sort of thought I interpreted for “I ain’t no fricassyin’ rabbit!” as another similar attempt at censor-friendly dialog. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2022, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/13 "2022-10-07T01:19:23Z")
Welcome to The Dope, **DopeSince54**. Good post! Keep up the good work. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2022, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/14 "2022-10-07T02:15:56Z")
when I heard it it was a reference to the car 54 character usually referred to someone who was intelligent but was a bit slow and couldn’t express themselves very well ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2022, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/15 "2022-10-07T20:31:57Z")
> [@scrambledeggs](#): > > This military officer (now a major) back at the academy would call us ‘muldoons’ if he was being pejorative I mean pretty much the same thing when I call Pluto the spaniel a “gazorb”. ---
**Author:** ![motu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/motu/32/259_2.png) [@motu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/motu)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2022, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/16 "2022-10-07T20:51:19Z")
Maybe a military thing instead of a Texas thing? ---
**Author:** ![BrianElAbuelo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8dc957/32.png) [@BrianElAbuelo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrianElAbuelo)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2023, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/17 "2023-02-07T13:47:52Z")
A “Muldoon” was a slang word for Police foot patrolmen primarily East Coast big cities as well as Chicago. In the British Army any infantryman in a Irish regiment might be referred to as a Muldoon (possible connection between the USA cities and prior use in UK?). Until WW@ many Irish Catholics joined the British Military as there was no economic opportunities for Irish Catholics in their own country (not a nation until the Irish Free State in the 1920s). ---
**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/18 "2023-02-09T05:54:44Z")
It’s an Army thing. Pretty sure its use in the Army stems from character in the John Wayne movie, The Green Berets. [Green Beret Weapons Scene - HD - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7qr2H2mwQs) It’s just another word for person, soldier, Joe, GI, grunt, etc. Any further meaning (negative, positive or pejorative) comes from context and intonation. ---
**Author:** ![markn\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@markn\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/markn_1)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2023, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216/19 "2023-02-09T18:27:04Z")
I’m surprised no one has yet mentioned the supposed derivation of “hoodlum” from “muldoon”. It’s folk etymology; the actual origin of “hoodlum” is unknown, except it arose in San Francisco around 1870, probably from the name of a local gang. There are a variety of implausible folk etymological origins proposed, one of which is that it’s a (faulty) reversal of the name “Muldoon”. ---
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Muldoon is also the name of a road and a neighborhood in east Anchorage, AK. In the past, at least, it’s been considered a seedier part of town, with a number of trailer parks, etc. Coincidentally, it’s also the closest neighborhood to the military bases. In this case, however, it was named after early settler Arnold Muldoon. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-muldoon-texas-slang-and-what-does-it-mean/457216.md?page=2)