# Is my cheese dip missing something?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 30, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306 "2011-04-30T18:21:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306/1 "2011-04-30T18:21:04Z")

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I don’t know how well this is going to work. I’m just going to throw this stuff together in a pan and see what happens. I plan to saute the spinach in garlic butter:

Spinach  
garlic  
cream cheese  
green chilies  
shredded jack  
shredded cheddar  
milk (for consistency)

Thanks for any input.

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**Author:** ![Jaledin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jaledin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaledin)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306/2 "2011-04-30T18:33:14Z")

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Dash of cumin? Maybe a small amount of lime juice? Just spitballing – never made cheese dip. Small amount of pulverized almonds or pine nuts?

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**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306/3 "2011-04-30T18:34:37Z")

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Despite the sheer volume of cheese, the end result may not be very cheesy. Parmesan, Asiago or aged Cheddar would help that. A little mustard powder might help the taste, and is always a good idea in melty cheesy foods due to the emulsifier it contains.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306/4 "2011-04-30T18:55:01Z")

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> [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](#):
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> Despite the sheer volume of cheese, the end result may not be very cheesy. Parmesan, Asiago or aged Cheddar would help that. A little mustard powder might help the taste, and is always a good idea in melty cheesy foods due to the emulsifier it contains.

Mustard powder? Cool. I would have never thought that in a million years.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306/5 "2011-04-30T18:57:35Z")

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Is this a cold, soft dip? Or a hot, liquid dip?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306/6 "2011-04-30T18:57:45Z")

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Bacon

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306/7 "2011-04-30T19:03:41Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Bacon

Cubed pancetta would be better.

Maybe paprika.

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**Author:** ![Jaledin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Jaledin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jaledin)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306/8 "2011-04-30T19:09:13Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Cubed pancetta would be better.

There was some treatment in the latest “Cook’s Illustrated” which required pureed bacon – I don’t remember the application, but the B&W photo of the food-processered bacon/pancetta looked good enough that I’m going to do the same thing to a few pounds and freeze it. No, not for a milkshake, but for things just like this cheese dip.

Coleman’s mustard powder! Even for a half-Irish Frenchie, there are a few things the English can do right.

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**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306/9 "2011-04-30T19:36:42Z")

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How about a hit of Worcestershire sauce?

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306/10 "2011-04-30T19:38:35Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Cubed pancetta would be better.
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> Maybe paprika.

Pancetta is bacon. A very delicious form of bacon. Agreed.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306/11 "2011-04-30T20:30:52Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Pancetta is bacon. A very delicious form of bacon. Agreed.

You’re correct, of course. I thought that that specific kind of bacon would be better than the more standard fried strip bacon.

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**Author:** ![Athena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/35a633/32.png) [@Athena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Athena)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306/12 "2011-04-30T20:35:40Z")

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Cheddar and jack don’t melt well - they tend to separate and become greasy. You can get around this by adding some flour to the mix (basically make a roux), or just using a little bit of those cheeses and rely mostly on the cream cheese. The roux makes a good sauce for things like mac & cheese, but for a cheese sauce it’s a bit floury. I’d tend to go heavy on the other ingredients and low on the cheddar/jack - maybe just grate some in at the end, off heat, and see what happens.

If you’ve got some carageenan lying around, it makes a great emulsifier and you can make a cheese dip almost entirely out of cheese with it. But I’m going to go out on a limb and assume you don’t have any hanging around in the back of the pantry.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306/13 "2011-04-30T20:40:51Z")

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He might if he’s a homebrewer.

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**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306/14 "2011-04-30T21:40:56Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> Pancetta is bacon. A very delicious form of bacon. Agreed.

But it’s not really like American bacon, which almost always is smoked (and to me, makes a big, big difference in the final taste. I _hate_ it when people substitute bacon for pancetta.)

The only comment I have on the OP’s ingredients is he needs something to get the consistency right. Those cheeses aren’t quite going to cut it on their own, even with milk. You’d need a roux (as **Athena** mentions–basically make a bechamel base for your cheese to melt in) or, god help me here, but I’m actually going to suggest Velveeta as a possibility. I enjoy a hint of nutmeg with my cheesy sauces, so I’d add that, too. A little goes a long way, though. Just a pinch.

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**Author:** ![minionkat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@minionkat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minionkat)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2011, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-my-cheese-dip-missing-something/580306/15 "2011-04-30T23:29:43Z")

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I would skip the milk. If you need to thin it out, use sour cream instead.
