# Is "negative ghost rider, the pattern is full" a BS statement?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 6, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389 "2015-03-06T22:50:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/22 "2017-03-03T17:29:56Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> Reported

Why? He’s in the pipe, five by five.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/23 "2017-03-03T17:30:04Z")

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> [@Ghost\_Rider](#):
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> Your lack of military experience and or intelligence is blatantly obvious. **“The pattern is full”** , was once an “above top secret” assigned designation of military-based code-speak specifically de-classified so that Don Simpson and Jerry Bruckheimer could use that phrase in the movie Top Gun as part of the psyops program the USGOV was running back in the '80s to create paranoia with the Russians.
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> The flyby of Maverick which caused the spilling of the coffee onto the air controller’s uniform was to let Gorbachev know that the US was aware of his operations in Columbia and that the US was no longer going to permit its continuation. If you watch the scene again, the air controller (a major) is pouring coffee from the silver coffee urn… then as he turns and faces the camera, you’ll notice his uniform “fruit salad”, the arrangement of the military awards are all USSR and not USA. In fact, his name tag is has the hammer and sickle, and his name is written as “Gor B Cheff”.  
> The opening day of “Top Gun” was the same day cia operatives ran their backdoor op “vacation in cancun” straight from mexico into bogota. But you probably didn’t know any of this.
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> Which is why it’s understandable you hear this line as “a bunch of gibberish”.
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> Since it’s been 30 years and this op has been de-classified, there’s no harm in letting the normies know.
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> - gr

Yeah.  
Care to back this up with a cite or two?

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/24 "2017-03-03T17:30:16Z")

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There’s a difference between “Been around for awhile. Fucking nuts, but entertaining” and “Drive-by batshit.” 😃

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/25 "2017-03-03T17:30:49Z")

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Dude needs to loosen his tin foil hat or up his psych meds.

“Gor B Cheff” was a nice touch though.

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**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/26 "2017-03-03T17:57:45Z")

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I am going to have to watch Top Gun more closely next time.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/27 "2017-03-03T18:03:01Z")

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> [@Lasciel](#):
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> WUT.  
> Serious question tho- you can report someone for just being batty now? Board’s gonna get sparse if that is true. 😃

I’m thinking it is more about the “Your lack of military experience **and or intelligence** is blatantly obvious.” line from Commander Cuckoo Bananas.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/28 "2017-03-03T18:03:13Z")

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> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#):
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> I am going to have to watch Top Gun more closely next time.

For the subtleties of the fly-by you missed, right? Not just rewatching the volleyball scene? 😛

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**Author:** ![sitchensis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sitchensis/32/4892_2.png) [@sitchensis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sitchensis)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/29 "2017-03-03T18:08:54Z")

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With wake turbulence separation the pattern could be full and the planes could be miles apart.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/30 "2017-03-03T18:14:30Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> For the subtleties of the fly-by you missed, right? Not just rewatching the volleyball scene? 😛

Ah, but that scene was also a symbol for the cold war. The American are the “shirts”, the Soviets the “skins.” The volleyball is a veiled reference to the nuclear football. And the overall message of the scene is that, as much as the two sides try to appear to rivals, they should just get over it and get a room, already.

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**Author:** ![Lasciel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e79b87/32.png) [@Lasciel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lasciel)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/31 "2017-03-03T18:23:44Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> I’m thinking it is more about the “Your lack of military experience **and or intelligence** is blatantly obvious.” line from Commander Cuckoo Bananas.

Ahhh, I bet you’re right. I missed that nugget in the buffet line of bonkers.

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**Author:** ![VanLandry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/eb9ed0/32.png) [@VanLandry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VanLandry)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/32 "2017-03-03T18:47:57Z")

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n/m

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/33 "2017-03-03T20:27:28Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> For the subtleties of the fly-by you missed, right? Not just rewatching the volleyball scene? 😛

…

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… someone did a flyby in that movie? 😃

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/34 "2017-03-03T20:48:55Z")

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I like it. I’m gonna subscribe to Ghost Rider’s pamphlet.

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**Author:** ![standingwave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@standingwave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/standingwave)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/35 "2017-03-03T21:40:35Z")

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It was clearly a warning to the Soviets that we had some ridiculously fast fast-movers.

\*“Maverick’s supersonic. I’ll be there in 30 seconds.” \*

125 miles in 30 seconds is 15,000 MPH!

Zoooooom.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/36 "2017-03-03T22:56:13Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Yeah.  
> Care to back this up with a cite or two?

I can cite from personal experience that a low pass makes a whooshing sound as it goes over your head.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2017, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/37 "2017-03-03T23:50:21Z")

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> [@Ghost\_Rider](#):
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> Since it’s been 30 years and this op has been de-classified, there’s no harm in letting the normies know.

🙂

All right, but the REAL ending of the movie is when they fight the MIGs at the end, all right? Because he has passed over into the gay way. They are this gay fighting fucking force, all right? And they’re beating the Russians, the gays are beating the Russians. And it’s over, and they fucking land, and Iceman’s been trying to get Maverick the entire time, and finally, he’s got him, all right? And what is the last fucking line that they have together? They’re all hugging and kissing and happy with each other, and Ice comes up to Maverick, and he says, “Man, you can ride my tail, anytime!” And what does Maverick say? “You can ride mine!” Swordfight! Swordfight! Fuckin’ A, man!

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**Post date:** [March 4, 2017, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-negative-ghost-rider-the-pattern-is-full-a-bs-statement/714389/38 "2017-03-04T04:09:45Z")

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I see no need to keep this open at this point.

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