# Is Netflix in trouble? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** netflix\ **Created:** [April 23, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-netflix-in-trouble/963296 "2022-04-23T00:16:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-netflix-in-trouble/963296/21 "2022-04-25T09:06:49Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Bundling streaming services seems weird, though I guess maybe what you could do is subscribe to a service that has access to Disney+, Paramount Plus, and Netflix, then presents them in its own UI as one giant library. Amazon Prime Video and Apple TV pretty much already do this where you can subscribe to third-party streamers from within the Prime and Apple TV apps. They offer “Channels,” like Acorn TV or Cinemax or BET+. I don’t think either offers any particular deals for adding subs via their apps. I don’t know how Prime does it, but with Apple these channels live in the Apple TV app itself, so you’re using its interface, not the BET+ or whichever app. The problem is that few of the big streamers offer their subs through these channels. Apple TV used to have HBO available and there was speculation that Disney would join in the beginning. But then HBO Max killed the HBO channel and Disney+ never made it over. I think Paramount+ is the only big name service available on both. The rest are mostly niche streamers like Noggin, Hallmark and BritBox. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2022, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-netflix-in-trouble/963296/22 "2022-04-25T11:50:53Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > It’s obvious that netflix never meant for a 4 screen plan to mean “for every one person that subscribes to our service, 3+ others can get it for free” and it’s bizarre to feel angry about that. Really? Then what did it mean? Here is Netflix’s current description of its plans: > **[Plans and Pricing](https://help.netflix.com/en/node/24926)** > > Discover the different streaming plans Netflix offers and how much Netflix costs. Money quote: “ Netflix offers a variety of plans to meet your needs. The plan you choose will determine the video quality and the number of screens you can watch Netflix on **at the same time**.” The bolding is theirs. No qualifications ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-netflix-in-trouble/963296/23 "2022-04-26T00:02:44Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > 4 screen plan to mean “for every one person that subscribes to our service, 3+ others can get it for free” and it’s bizarre to feel angry about that. And yet here I am, a single guy who only ever uses one screen at a time but they charge me for four. I pay for my subscription. No one else shares my password. But I have to pay for four screens (a requirement if I want 4K…I spent a lot on a 4K TV…I want the 4K). So yeah, I’m a little salty about that and I would venture a guess I am not the only single person home in America. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-netflix-in-trouble/963296/24 "2022-04-26T00:06:55Z")
I’d been a subscriber to the DVD-by-mail service for about twenty years, but cancelled yesterday. I noticed that in the past few months, I’ve found very few movies I want to see, so there were weeks between getting new discs. And today, I cancelled the streaming service. So in total, that’s about thirty bucks a month I’ll be saving. ---
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-netflix-in-trouble/963296/25 "2022-04-26T00:11:33Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > No qualifications I’d be willing to bet those qualifications are buried in the small print you agree to when you tick the terms and conditions box. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-netflix-in-trouble/963296/26 "2022-04-26T00:16:32Z")
> [@Whack-a-Mole](#): > > I’d be willing to bet those qualifications are buried in the small print you agree to when you tick the terms and conditions box. Probably but I am like you, paying for 4k and only ever using one screen. I can’t see how they can reasonably enforce the rule anyway. If I had a wife and two kids who all used the service, how do they know if we have multiple homes or use the service in a hotel or when I visit my mom. My sister has my mom on one of her screens and also her daughter. The daughter lives with my sister much of the time. People are losing their shit over something that will likely never happen. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-netflix-in-trouble/963296/27 "2022-04-26T00:45:25Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > I can’t see how they can reasonably enforce the rule anyway. If I had a wife and two kids who all used the service, how do they know if we have multiple homes or use the service in a hotel or when I visit my mom. IP tracking. We’ve let our nieces use our account, and they both travel out-of-town for high school sports and music stuff. I regularly get emails from Netflix, informing me that my account was logged into from a different city (which just so happens to be where one of the nieces is for an event). Ostensibly, Netflix is sending me those emails to notify me, in case it really is unauthorized usage (and, thus, an account hack). ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-netflix-in-trouble/963296/28 "2022-04-26T00:50:34Z")
Now that you mention it, I did get one of those when my account really was hacked. They got in a changed my email and re-set my password. The hackers had control of my account for like two hours. ---
**Author:** ![doreen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/858c86/32.png) [@doreen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doreen)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-netflix-in-trouble/963296/29 "2022-04-26T01:18:01Z")
I don’t get those emails when I sign on at a new location ( on vacation) - but I do get them when I sign on with a new device even in my own home. (and the email does note the zip code). ---
**Author:** ![epbrown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47774/32.png) [@epbrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-netflix-in-trouble/963296/30 "2022-04-26T01:48:09Z")
> [@SenorBeef](#): > > This is all a hysterical overreaction. The first hysterical overreaction is our financial sector deciding that just being a profitable company is worthless, only growth matters. The irony is that Netflix actually does have huge room for growth, despite being the largest service. They’ve been steadily expanding in other countries, sponsoring relationships and content that adds tons of new properties they can bring back to the US (like _Squid Game_). They’ve been growing market share in Korea, India and the Middle East. A lot of streaming services aren’t even available outside the US, and they don’t have the variety of content Netflix does. They still seem like a good long term investment to me. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-netflix-in-trouble/963296.md?page=1)