# Is Obama all that different from other Presidents? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 14, 2011, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-all-that-different-from-other-presidents/588993 "2011-07-14T09:22:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Dick\_Dastardly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c4cdca/32.png) [@Dick\_Dastardly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dick_Dastardly)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-all-that-different-from-other-presidents/588993/141 "2011-07-20T17:46:26Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > It’s an article of faith, they can’t actually explain it. It would be nice to get a reply though. This forum is called “Great Debates” but for a lot of posters it’s “Great Debates To Run Away From.” ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-all-that-different-from-other-presidents/588993/142 "2011-07-20T21:50:26Z")
> [@2sense](#): > > In order to understand the political dynamic in America the important thing to remember is that the public doesn’t support anything on the Republican agenda. This isn’t true. But even if it was, and it may be for some specific cases, that’s the beauty of a 2-party system. If the “other side” gets elected just have them do it instead. Good cop, bad cop. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-all-that-different-from-other-presidents/588993/143 "2011-07-20T21:55:28Z")
> [@Raskolnikov](#): > > did they not pass the HC bill on Reconciliation? i.e. 50 votes "The PPACA passed the Senate on December 24, 2009, by a filibuster-proof vote of 60–39 with all Democrats and one Independent voting for, and all Republicans voting against. It passed the House of Representatives on March 21, 2010, by a vote of 219–212, with 178 Republicans and 34 Democrats voting against the bill.[4] " > **[Affordable Care Act](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patient_Protection_and_Affordable_Care_Act)** > > The Affordable Care Act (ACA), formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA) and informally as Obamacare, is a landmark U.S. federal statute enacted by the 111th United States Congress and signed into law by President Barack Obama on March 23, 2010. Together with amendments made to it by the Health Care and Education Reconciliation Act of 2010, it represents the U.S. healthcare system's most significant regulatory overhaul and expansion of coverage since the enactme... You might be thinking of the Bush tax cuts which were passed by reconciliation in the senate. They also used the 10 year sunset to get around the PAYGO rules. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-all-that-different-from-other-presidents/588993/144 "2011-07-20T22:01:59Z")
> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#): > > Most of those Congressmen lost to Republicans not more liberal Democrats. They didn’t get primariedd but the liberal democrats didn’t show up on election day. The swing in the mid term election wasn’t the result of swing voters switching to the republican side of things, it was the result of lots of Republicans coming out to vote and not so many Democrats coming out to vote. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-all-that-different-from-other-presidents/588993/145 "2011-07-20T22:09:32Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > The apex reached under Obama is the deficit, and there he is off the map. > > And this notion that he is hated more than Bush was hated is more than mildly ridiculous for anyone who has been a member her for longer than three years. The excuse that Obama is hated because he is black is just that, an excuse, and an attempt to put him above criticism. > > Regards, > Shodan On THIS BOARD Obama does not receive anywhere near the hatred that Bush received. But to be fair, Bush probably got mroe hate than Obama in general. Not everyone that hates Obama hates him because he is a racist but a lot of them do. The tea party has some racist elements and the birthers are rife with racists ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2011, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-all-that-different-from-other-presidents/588993/146 "2011-07-20T22:18:35Z")
You guys must be getting tired correcting Susanan on facts (not principles or theory btu facts)? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-all-that-different-from-other-presidents/588993.md?page=7)