# Is Obama the first president with a college degree who has declined to release his college records? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [November 6, 2012, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-the-first-president-with-a-college-degree-who-has-declined-to-release-his-college-records/640119 "2012-11-06T18:38:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![wm.m.thompson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b4bc9f/32.png) [@wm.m.thompson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wm.m.thompson)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-the-first-president-with-a-college-degree-who-has-declined-to-release-his-college-records/640119/82 "2012-11-17T11:29:12Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > **[Moderator Note]** > > **wm.m.thompson** , you’ve been given a number of plain and simple direct answers to your questions. You have provided no evidence to support your own statements. You have already been informed that Bush did not release his own college records, yet continue to state that he did. Asking the same questions over and over again after they have been answered in my opinion constitutes trolling. Continue in this vein and this thread will be closed. If you have evidence that another president released his college records, provide it in your next post. > > Colibri > General Questions Moderator I only asked a question. And, no, I got no answers. Just emotional fueled rhetoric. “It does not matter” is not an answer. “This is birther conspiracy theory nonsense” is not an answer. “What are your motives?” is not an answer. “You only come here once in a while” Is not an answer. This leads me only to think that Obama really is the first president who had not released his college records. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-the-first-president-with-a-college-degree-who-has-declined-to-release-his-college-records/640119/83 "2012-11-17T12:07:37Z")
> [@wm.m.thompson](#): > > This leads me only to think that Obama really is the first president who had not released his college records. You’ve been answered multiple times. You’ve been told that Presidents don’t release their college transcripts. You’ve been told that Bush never released his- they were leaked. You asked the question, it was answered. The fact that you didn’t get the answer you wanted is irrelevant, and shouldn’t be used to reinforce the decision you already reached. You’ve been warned that if you continue this sort of behavior, the thread will be closed. Personally, I suspect that you want that, so that you can then claim that the SDMB persecuted you for “just asking questions”. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-the-first-president-with-a-college-degree-who-has-declined-to-release-his-college-records/640119/84 "2012-11-17T12:39:07Z")
I think I have what he wants, finally: No. George Washington was the first president to fail to release his college records. ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-the-first-president-with-a-college-degree-who-has-declined-to-release-his-college-records/640119/85 "2012-11-17T13:05:46Z")
> [@wm.m.thompson](#): > > That does not answer my question. > > That does not answer my question. > > That does not answer my question and that does not make sense. > > Bush DID release his college records. That is why everyone knows he was such an average student. > > No motive. Not a drive by shooter. Just asking the question. > > So I think it is safe to say now that, yes, Obama is the first president with a college record that has refused to release his records. > > I don’t understand the posters here. Lots of emotion and little logic. Have you stopped beating your wife? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-the-first-president-with-a-college-degree-who-has-declined-to-release-his-college-records/640119/86 "2012-11-17T13:06:41Z")
> [@wm.m.thompson](#): > > Bush DID release his college records. That is why everyone knows he was such an average student. Only **after they were leaked first** , which is the real reason why everyone knows he was such an average student. But you know that, of course. ---
**Author:** ![pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a9a28c/32.png) [@pseudotriton\_ruber\_ruber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pseudotriton_ruber_ruber)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-the-first-president-with-a-college-degree-who-has-declined-to-release-his-college-records/640119/87 "2012-11-17T14:15:01Z")
You know, this shit (birtherism, Benghazi-get, transcript-get) is so out of control, I wonder if Obama’s alma mater (and mine, btw) has actually arranged for his transcripts to be sealed inside the university president’s office, so that no bribery or malfeasance on the part of a lowly record-keeper could cause his transcript to be released against his will or the university’s will. The records, as far as I know, are kept in a building located about three miles from Trump’s offices. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2012, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-the-first-president-with-a-college-degree-who-has-declined-to-release-his-college-records/640119/88 "2012-11-17T18:44:43Z")
> [@wm.m.thompson](#): > > I only asked a question. And, no, I got no answers. Just emotional fueled rhetoric. “It does not matter” is not an answer. “This is birther conspiracy theory nonsense” is not an answer. “What are your motives?” is not an answer. “You only come here once in a while” Is not an answer. This leads me only to think that Obama really is the first president who had not released his college records. **Moderator Warning** **wm.m.thompson** , I gave you clear instructions to provide evidence in your next post to support your claims. This is an Official Warning for failure to follow moderator instructions and for trolling. This thread is closed. Open another one without providing evidence and your posting privileges will be under discussion. Colibri General Questions Moderator [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-obama-the-first-president-with-a-college-degree-who-has-declined-to-release-his-college-records/640119.md?page=4)