# Is Oprah a bit of a wagon?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 11, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101 "2009-03-11T18:35:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/1 "2009-03-11T18:35:57Z")

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As above.

I was reading a piece on another website, and they quoted Oprah being incredibly insulting to these two guests while backstage.

Is the whole TV persona an act, or is she really that nice, and she just had a bad day?

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/2 "2009-03-11T18:38:00Z")

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I have no idea of the answer to the OP, but I have to ask…what is the definition of “wagon” that you’re using in your thread title? I have seriously never heard the word used that way before.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/3 "2009-03-11T18:48:56Z")

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From [Urban Dictionary](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wagon):

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> 1. wagon  
> (Ireland) an obnoxious, agressive woman, a bitch
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> \*Our new boss is a right wagon! \*

Never ran into it myself, either.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/4 "2009-03-11T18:51:29Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> Never ran into it myself, either.

You learn something new every day, I guess.

As to the OP, I have no idea how she actually is in person, but one report of her having an altercation with a guest backstage really doesn’t mean anything. It makes for a good story, though, given her usual public image of beneficence, but that very fact would make me look at the supposed incident with suspicion.

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/5 "2009-03-11T19:00:38Z")

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I know what a pie wagon is.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/6 "2009-03-11T19:10:26Z")

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[http://www.popcrunch.com/oprah-winfrey-rachael-ray-feud-oprah-is-a-demanding-bitch/](http://www.popcrunch.com/oprah-winfrey-rachael-ray-feud-oprah-is-a-demanding-bitch/)

Rachael Ray doesn’t like her.

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**Author:** ![Laudenum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Laudenum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Laudenum)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/7 "2009-03-11T19:21:04Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> I have no idea of the answer to the OP, but I have to ask…what is the definition of “wagon” that you’re using in your thread title? I have seriously never heard the word used that way before.

:o  
Sorry, it’s a common term used in Ireland.

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**Author:** ![SaharaTea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@SaharaTea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaharaTea)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/8 "2009-03-11T20:08:07Z")

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Is she a diva sometimes? Most likely. But I don’t think her persona is totally an act either.

I think Oprah once described herself as being a kind person, but not really a nice person, if that makes sense. Basically, she is very giving to people who need it and she can be cordial, but she doesn’t go out of her way to be super nice and buddy-buddy. That is unless you’re a famous celebrity on her show. 😉

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/9 "2009-03-11T20:09:49Z")

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> [@Laudenum](#):
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> :o  
> Sorry, it’s a common term used in Ireland.

Sounds to me like it might be Cockney rhyming slang for “dragon”, except it would be unusually straightforward.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/10 "2009-03-11T20:18:11Z")

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> [@sqweels](#):
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> I know what a pie wagon is.

I’ve heard of pussy wagon. OK, that was just in\*\* Grease\*\*.

I still think Oprah is a bitch for wearing red to her Legends celebration.

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**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/11 "2009-03-11T20:20:56Z")

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Two levels removed, but the wife of a (former) co-worker used to work on the show and said Oprah was a bitch.

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**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/12 "2009-03-11T20:24:06Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> [http://www.popcrunch.com/oprah-winfrey-rachael-ray-feud-oprah-is-a-demanding-bitch/](http://www.popcrunch.com/oprah-winfrey-rachael-ray-feud-oprah-is-a-demanding-bitch/)
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> Rachael Ray doesn’t like her.

According to the _National Enquirer_.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/13 "2009-03-11T20:48:52Z")

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I think she’s evolved a titanic ego, and whether you come away thinking she’s “nice” will fully depend on how slavishly you’re willing to smooch her enormous black ass.

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/14 "2009-03-11T21:12:31Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> I’ve heard of pussy wagon. OK, that was just in\*\* Grease\*\*.
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> I still think Oprah is a bitch for wearing red to her Legends celebration.

I’m missing something- what’s the problem with that?

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/15 "2009-03-11T22:08:31Z")

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It was a “black and white” ball- everyone was REQUIRED to wear black or white, without exception.

Except Herself, who dressed in red. But it was all about her guests, of course.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/16 "2009-03-11T22:09:24Z")

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> [@corkboard](#):
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> I’m missing something- what’s the problem with that?

She invited legendary black women to a dinner and asked them to wear black and/or white. Then she showed up in red.

[http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20147698,00.html](http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20147698,00.html)  
[http://boards.luckymag.com/message.jspa?messageID=44406](http://boards.luckymag.com/message.jspa?messageID=44406)

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**Author:** ![Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/bc8723/32.png) [@Unauthorized\_Cinnamon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Unauthorized_Cinnamon)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/17 "2009-03-11T23:11:54Z")

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> [@Koxinga](#):
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> Sounds to me like it might be Cockney rhyming slang for “dragon”, except it would be unusually straightforward.

I was thinking “wagon hitch.”

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/18 "2009-03-11T23:19:39Z")

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okay, i will now try and use wagon on this side of the pond. give a whirl see if it catches on.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2009, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/19 "2009-03-11T23:36:19Z")

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> [@EJsGirl](#):
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> It was a “black and white” ball- everyone was REQUIRED to wear black or white, without exception.
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> Except Herself, who dressed in red. But it was all about her guests, of course.

If the “legends” were required to wear black & white, wouldn’t Oprah wearing black & white be presumptuous, as if she were defining herself as one of the “legends”?

(Not scare quotes…I just don’t know what constitutes legendary in this context)

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2009, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-oprah-a-bit-of-a-wagon/489101/20 "2009-03-12T04:58:35Z")

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I’m thinking “covered wagon,” which pretty much describes her size, these days.

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