# Is "our psychology misandry"?

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**Created:** [November 29, 2024, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-our-psychology-misandry/1010955 "2024-11-29T23:12:50Z")\
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> [@Irishman](#):
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> What do you mean “our psychology is misandry?”
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> (snip)
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> Devaluing men is part of the patriarchy? And patriarchy is in quotes, suggesting you are using that term in an insincere or ironic manner.

This is a confused person, a poor writer, and someone who appears to be throwing around jargon that they don’t understand at all.

If I were to guess what they meant:

- They seem to believe that critique of the patriarchy is the same as “the patriarchy” itself.
- They seem to be using “misandry” to include any discussion of how male behavior can be problematic.

I’ve seen the latter mistake in social media quite a bit – the slightest observation that men aren’t always good, or that someone prefers a certain aspect of women, and a certain type of guy will start yelling “misandry”. Sort of how fragile white people cry “reverse racism” in any situation where whites don’t get their accustomed level of deference.

As to the former, it’s pretty weird to see someone refer to critique of the patriarchy as “the patriarchy”, but I see no other way to make any sense out of the utterance “devaluing men is a huge part of the ‘patriarchy’”. That’s the opposite of true, it’s quite literally the opposite of what the patriarchy actually is.

All in all it sounds like someone’s gotten het-up enough about feminist-theoretical language to form a counter-theory of their own, but without bothering to learn much about the thing they intend to critique.

Of course, maybe I’m the one operating in ignorance here, because:

> [@Is Trans fear driven by a fear of being deceived?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-trans-fear-driven-by-a-fear-of-being-deceived/1010837/58):
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> Most aren’t ready for the ontological shock.

Y’all hear that? We just can’t handle his ideas, our brains would be paralyzed by Ontological Shock.

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