fair enough:
1st question: i was responding to Uekte’s response about the problem lying in old ppl not in the reaaly population, so yes there are many causes of over population
2nd: its not bad that ppl can live richer lives, and im all for giving a child or a young man u might be fatally ill a chance at life through medicine, what i dont like is the extension it gives to life. there is as much a time to die as there is to live. as i said earlier, like birth, death is also a part of life. nevertheless this is not the topic of this thread, and if u like i can discuss this with you in a more appropariate place.
3rd: americans consuming reasources is very much related to overpopulation. i was under the assumption that you would read more than just the last couple of posts, and therefore would have realized this. since you have not i will explain my point: america is currently not over populated (we take up about 5%[ Popular Science, Green Party pamphlet] of the world population). still this nation uses some 30% (same as previous fact) of the worlds reasorces. one of the major problems with over population is the reasources that we consume as a result of the world population. more population = more limited reasources consumed = more catastrophies in the environment and making life hard for everyone. The more careless this nation (or any nation) is, the bigger the issue of world population will be.
4th question: im kinda confused on this one. yes, its true more kids = more hands for the family farm. but these kids are only good for so long. a good example is slave condition sweatshops. doing laborious work, such as farm work, while getting less than scraps to eat each night means these children are only good for so long. by their 20’s they become senile and more of a burden than enything else. they consume reasource, but are not able to bring any kind of money because of their overall health.
5th question: this is not true. the very essence of humanityarian work (which i will be doing) is to go into a poor community and educate the ppl. yes it is true there is a strong coorelation between wealth and education, but these ppl are not getting college degrees, they are being taught to use condems and practice safe sex.
6th question: i never said ppl were looking for just one cause. that is a generalization which i never made. i was responding to Uekte’s post in which he cited a problem, to which i responded that there a many issues making this a very complex overall issue hence the reason we debate it. how do i think i would curtail the consupmtion of reacsorces? i dont wanna go into that cause this is getting long, but my personal beliefs are very parrell to the beliefs of the green party, i would look to some of their ideas. a couple are alternative energy souces and, more importantly, to some how impress on the ppl the importance and the need for conservation.
7th question: im not sure what you mean by this, although i dont believe i agree. but i want to focus the discussion on the issue of population. the issue of age desereve a thread of its own, when you start it, i will certainly share my thoughts
8th question: i dont understand how it doesn’t. we have ppl in this country that are really getting up there in the ages by artificial means (which i serious probelms with) such as a artificial heart. as a result, ppl that otherwise would pass away at 70 - 75, are adding several yrs to their life. look at the baby boom, a surge of babies come in, as these “babies” reach old age they live longer than their parents (artificially as i said before) and therefore screw up the population cycle. this is the reason that politicains are pulling their hair out wondering what to do with the social seurity benefits which will run out very shortly with some many ppl almost ready to retire.
9th question: man you analyze. ok i defined this in my response. im talking about the man who technically living, but is (s)he really living? do they have the ability to actually interact with other, to show signs of happiness and other emotions? are they a simple clump of living cells, or actually a person with a personality that advances the community (in whatever way they see fit). are they simple taking up space or do they actually give something back. im defining life here which is not easy, so i apologize for the clarity.
10th question: im not judging thier significance, im not telling Fair enough:
1st question: I was responding to Uekte’s response about the problem lying in old people not in the really population, so yes there are many causes of over population
2nd: its not bad that people can live richer lives, and I’m all for giving a child or a young man u might be fatally ill a chance at life through medicine, what I don’t like is the extension it gives to life. There is as much a time to die, as there is to live. As I said earlier, like birth, death is also a part of life. Nevertheless this is not the topic of this thread, and if u like I can discuss this with you in a more appropriate place.
3rd: Americans consuming resources is very much related to overpopulation. I was under the assumption that you would read more than just the last couple of posts, and therefore would have realized this. Since you have not I will explain my point: America is currently not over populated (we take up about 5%[Popular Science, Green Party pamphlet] of the world population). Still this nation uses some 30% (same as previous fact) of the world’s resources. One of the major problems with over population is the resource that we consume as a result of the world population. More population = more limited resources consumed = more catastrophes in the environment and making life hard for everyone. The more careless this nation (or any nation) is, the bigger the issue of world population will be.
4th question: I’m kind of confused on this one. Yes, its true more kids = more hands for the family farm. But these kids are only good for so long. A good example is slave condition sweatshops. Doing laborious work, such as farm work, while getting less than scraps to eat each night means these children are only good for so long. By their 20’s they become senile and more of a burden than anything else. They consume resources, but are not able to bring any kind of money because of their overall health.
5th question: this is not true. The very essence of humanitarian work (which I will be doing) is to go into a poor community and educate the people. Yes it is true there is a strong correlation between wealth and education, but these people are not getting college degrees, they are being taught to use condoms and practice safe sex.
6th question: I never said people were looking for just one cause. That is a generalization, which I never made. I was responding to Uekte’s post in which he cited a problem, to which I responded that there a many issues making this a very complex overall issue hence the reason we debate it. How do I think I would curtail the consumption of reassures? I don’t want to go into that cause this is getting long, but my personal beliefs are very parallel to the beliefs of the green party, I would look to some of their ideas. A couple is alternative energy sources and, more importantly, to some how impress on the people the importance and the need for conservation.
7th question: I’m not sure what you mean by this, although I don’t believe I agree. But I want to focus the discussion on the issue of population. The issue of age deserves a thread of its own, when you start it; I will certainly share my thoughts
8th question: I don’t understand how it doesn’t. We have people in this country that are really getting up there in the ages by artificial means (which I serious problems with) such as an artificial heart. As a result, people that otherwise would pass away at 70 - 75, are adding several yrs to their life. Look at the baby boom, a surge of babies come in, as these “babies” reach old age they live longer than their parents (artificially as I said before) and therefore screw up the population cycle. This is the reason that politicians are pulling their hair out wondering what to do with the social security benefits, which will run out very shortly with some many people almost ready to retire.
9th question: man you analyze. Ok, I defined this in my response. I’m talking about the man who technically living but is (s)he really living? do they have the ability to actually interact with other, to show signs of happiness and other emotions? are they a simple clump of living cells, or actually a person with a personality that advances the community (in whatever way they see fit). are they simple taking up space or do they actually give something back. I’m defining life here, which is not easy, so I apologize for the clarity.
10th question: I’m not judging their significance, I’m not telling them to kill themselves. I’m asking them to draw a line in the sand after which point they say “I’ve had a good life, and I’m ready to move onto the next phase whatever it may be”. yes to say that you are right is an understatement, these people are more than significant. as much as I love my grandmother I have no wish for her to live for eternity, which seems to be what people are looking for, the ultimate panacea, the cure all so they can continually and forever fend of death. let me reiterate that I would not like to argue this here, but as an example, lets assume there is a god and an afterlife. then birth, teenage years, adulthood, old age and eventually death, and then the afterlife. they are all part of a grand plan, stages that everyone will go through and experience. I’m agnostic and @ 110 at night this is my best example.
11th question: no I don’t plan to kill myself that was dumb. I do however plan to live my life, not to just survive, but to actually live and enjoy what I have here. I have not yet clearly defined this since I am only 17 and in no particular hurry, but although I would take mild medication for an ailment (that means no medication with life changing side effects) I would refuse a blood transfer, although I will give it, I would refuse an organ donation, if I lost my eye, I would live with one eye, unless they could save it without having to replace it with some one else’s. and again if you want to argue this with me, start a new thread.
at not time did I place my values on anybody else, I only stated my opinions, although I may need to make it clear that they are opinion. I hope u realize that this is a site where people place their opinions online just as you did in response to my own post. opinions some of which I don’t agree with but respect because they are your own and I trust that if and when I contest them you are competent and will back them up.
