# Is Pat Robertson really Superman? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 27, 2006, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456 "2006-05-27T15:36:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2006, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/41 "2006-05-28T17:19:32Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Oh, man…a random _Der Fuhrer’s Face_ reference earns you a major salute from here! [/QUOTE] Yeah, you know, usually a salute involves putting your hand on the _other_ head. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2006, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/42 "2006-05-28T17:26:32Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] Yeah, you know, usually a salute involves putting your hand on the _other_ head. [/QUOTE] Hey, for a Spike Jones reference I give the whole shebang… 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/43 "2006-05-29T00:08:06Z")
[QUOTE=Happy Clam] Bah! Superman can easily beat a bear! He needs to get raped by Doomsday. Or Chuck Norris. [/QUOTE] Or Batman, if he’s prepared. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/44 "2006-05-29T00:19:21Z")
[Actually there are (a very few) men who](http://www.scotmendelson.net/MeetScot.html) can do 2000 lb leg presses on a sled type machine but [they usually look like this](http://www.scotmendelson.net/Gallery/BAScotGene_jpg.htm). ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Miskatonic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.miskatonic/32/310_2.png) [@Mr.Miskatonic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Miskatonic)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/45 "2006-05-29T02:37:55Z")
There’s only one way to respond to this: _PAT SMASH!!!_ ---
**Author:** ![JimSox5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5a626/32.png) [@JimSox5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JimSox5)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/46 "2006-05-29T02:40:46Z")
[QUOTE=Jebus H. Christ] Pat is liar and deserves to get raped by a bear. [/QUOTE] Let’s face it, Pat doesn’t lie to cover his tracks. . . ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/47 "2006-05-29T04:59:23Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Oh, man…a random _Der Fuhrer’s Face_ reference earns you a major salute from here! [/QUOTE] And from here. Aryan Fuhrer Supermen… ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/48 "2006-05-29T05:01:13Z")
[QUOTE=Jebus H. Christ] Pat is liar and deserves to get raped by a bear. [/QUOTE] What the hell do you have against bears? Poor Smokey, don’t think about that image. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/49 "2006-05-29T12:09:05Z")
Let’s be fair…Maybe he knelt over a 2,000 pound weight and pressed down! Monavis ---
**Author:** ![Zeriel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/58956e/32.png) [@Zeriel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeriel)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/50 "2006-05-29T15:04:22Z")
Hrm, after reading all the links, I feel a lot better about myself–I’ve loaded those inclined leg press machines pretty heavily and then used a few of the limited-extension tricks to fool folks into THINKING I was leg pressing 2000+ lbs (as opposed to leg-pressing 2000+ lbs with really bad form and evey cheat in the book) Granted, I can squat just about 300 for ten reps, so that’s what I brag about to people who know what they’re doing. =P ---
**Author:** ![Wolfian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/7ea924/32.png) [@Wolfian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolfian)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2006, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/51 "2006-05-29T22:09:07Z")
[QUOTE=jayjay] Oh, man…a random _Der Fuhrer’s Face_ reference earns you a major salute from here! [/QUOTE] : raspberry : ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/52 "2006-06-02T03:18:50Z")
I see more and more of this. Once Upon A Time, Pat could say he could do a ton, the Governor of New Mexico could say he was an NFL draft pick and so on. Nobody would catch them. With all the people who watch celebrities, with all the internet stuff, nobody can get away with this sort of thing anymore. Bill Clinton called this ‘government by Lexus/Nexus.’ I suppose it is only to increase. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/53 "2006-06-02T12:43:15Z")
[QUOTE=Happy Clam] Bah! Superman can easily beat a bear! He needs to get raped by Doomsday. Or Chuck Norris. [/QUOTE] Damn straight! And when Chuck Norris rapes televangelists they _stay_ raped! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/54 "2006-06-02T17:17:18Z")
The more I think about this story, the more I like it. Saying America deserves national disasters is one thing, but now Pious Pat is reduced to lying about leg presses to sell energy shakes? I guess the God Racket isn’t pulling down enough cash these days. ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/55 "2006-06-02T17:33:40Z")
[QUOTE=Marley23] Saying America deserves national disasters is one thing, but now Pious Pat is reduced to lying about leg presses to sell energy shakes? [/QUOTE] Is he really selling energy shakes? I thought that **DtG** just said that as a possible explantation. He isn’t really hawking some crap, other than his usual brand of crap, is he? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/56 "2006-06-02T17:49:32Z")
[QUOTE=MidnightRadio] Oh, my _God_! Wouldn’t that blind you? [/QUOTE] He got better. ---
**Author:** ![vetbridge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b5e925/32.png) [@vetbridge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vetbridge)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/57 "2006-06-02T18:01:13Z")
So, whose gonna let him know that kgs /= lbs? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/58 "2006-06-02T18:06:15Z")
[QUOTE=MidnightRadio] Oh, my _God_! Wouldn’t that blind you? [/QUOTE] No, it wouldn’t. The eye is just a lens with some muscles to assist in focusing. Blood is necessary to keep the biological material alive, but it doesn’t play a role in the mechanical function of the eye. A burst capillery is basically just a bruise. A bruised eyeball is pretty gruesome, but it’s not going to permanently damage the eye itself, unless you do it repeatedly over a long period of time. At least, so far as I understand biology. IANAD or anything. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/59 "2006-06-02T18:08:42Z")
Bah, that all pales in comparison to [Kim Jong-Il’s golfing prowess](http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2004/ea_nkorea_06_16.html). > [@](#): > > Pyongyang media say North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il enjoys golf, having shot multiple holes-in-one during his first try at the game. He reportedly aced five holes and finished 38 under par on the golf course. The “Great Leader” routinely shoots three or four holes-in-one per round, the government-controlled media reported. ---
**Author:** ![Blaster\_Master](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/cab0a1/32.png) [@Blaster\_Master](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blaster_Master)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2006, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456/60 "2006-06-02T19:37:40Z")
[QUOTE=Snarky\_Kong] > **[Train Your Legs For Bigger Overall Muscles - AskMen](https://www.askmen.com/sports/bodybuilding_60/80b_fitness_tip.html)** > > leg press - Leg development They are claiming that limited motion leg presses are legitimate and that 3000+ pounds is possible. Even so, 2/3rds of what’s humanly possible? I’m not seeing it. [/QUOTE] There’s a big difference between limited motion leg presses and what Pat Robertson is doing in the video linked by Derleth. Yes, in the video Pat Robertson is doing [close to] 1000 lbs, but his form is absolutely horrendous, even for limited motion. He’s bending his legs to about 160 degrees; a full motion is at least 90 degrees. Even worse, he’s pushing hard on his knees with his hands which is worth at least 100 lbs–on the leg press sled, because of the angle, you’re not actually putting in as much force as it sounds like. Seriously, if I saw someone like him with anywhere close to that much weight doing that at the gym, I’d make him stop… its one thing to do an exercise with poor (even horrible form); its another thing to risk injuring yourself and others around you. I don’t remember who said it, but 1400 lbs is about the WR for Squatting not Leg Press. I can do 1000 lbs (properly) for about 6-8 reps, and which would make it very hard for me to believe that the WR for Leg Press is probably only about 2-250 more than my max. I’ve watched people SQUAT close to 1000 lbs at competitions, which is about twice my max (which is somewhere around 450-500). FTR,I have no idea what the WR is for Leg Press because, as someone else mentioned, I don’t care since its not something you really use to compare strength. There’s just too many variables: angle of the sled, sled weight, amount of friction, foot placement, weight and location of the weight, depth of knee bend. For squats you only have weight and location of the weight, foot placement, and depth of knee bend, all of which are more easily kept consistent. Watching the video, I’d be surprised is Pat Robertson could correctly leg press more than 400 lbs (which would still be quite impressive for his age), and actually impressed if he tried to do a comparable amount to 1000 lbs leg press on squats (maybe 350-400 lbs). All this stunt really proves is that he doesn’t have osteoporosis. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/is-pat-robertson-really-superman/358456.md?page=4)